Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Hi! First of all, DESIRE is a word. But what does it stand for? It stands for a certain kind of feeling. What kind of feeling does it stand for? A feeling of lack, of something missing, of need. Is that a deficiency, to have that kind of feeling? Is desire for food, clothing and shelter an obstacle to inner vision? No. But when all your physical, bodily needs are satisfied, and you still feel incomplete and needing something, maybe that's the moment to sit quietly and look into it in silence, and sense the root of this feeling. Larry www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > Hi! > > First of all, DESIRE is a word. But what does it stand for? > It stands for a certain kind of feeling. > What kind of feeling does it stand for? > A feeling of lack, of something missing, of need. > Is that a deficiency, to have that kind of feeling? > Is desire for food, clothing and shelter an obstacle to inner vision? > No. > But when all your physical, bodily needs are satisfied, and you still feel > incomplete and needing something, maybe that's the moment to sit quietly and > look into it in silence, and sense the root of this feeling. > > Larry > www.epston.com > I think the desire for food, clothing and shelter is the root cause of the problem, because it is the beginning of separation from " God " , the birth of the ego, Eve eating of the fruit of good and bad, the leaving of Eden, the evolving from apes into humans. This sense of separation was needed, so that a higher level of intelligence could evolve in humans, but now we need to evolve still further, we need to arise ABOVE thought. " Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. " -- Matthew 6 (New International Version) al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 In a message dated 12/18/2005 6:15:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " anders_lindman " <anders_lindman Re: Is Desire An Obstacle? Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > Hi! > > First of all, DESIRE is a word. But what does it stand for? > It stands for a certain kind of feeling. > What kind of feeling does it stand for? > A feeling of lack, of something missing, of need. > Is that a deficiency, to have that kind of feeling? > Is desire for food, clothing and shelter an obstacle to inner vision? > No. > But when all your physical, bodily needs are satisfied, and you still feel > incomplete and needing something, maybe that's the moment to sit quietly and > look into it in silence, and sense the root of this feeling. > > Larry > www.epston.com > I think the desire for food, clothing and shelter is the root cause of the problem, because it is the beginning of separation from " God " , the birth of the ego, Eve eating of the fruit of good and bad, the leaving of Eden, the evolving from apes into humans. This sense of separation was needed, so that a higher level of intelligence could evolve in humans, but now we need to evolve still further, we need to arise ABOVE thought. " Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. " -- Matthew 6 (New International Version) al. Your mind works in some interesting ways, AL. Is desire the cause of separation or is the perception of separation the cause of desire? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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