Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 In a message dated 12/19/2005 4:02:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: > Silver: You don't know what I'm feeling either > because my content is mine alone and yours is yours. Larry is saying > that we share the same content. He's saying that there is some kind > of supercontent possessing us and seeing everything that we see and > thinking our thoughts and feeling what we feel. It's absurd! > > Silver L.E: Yes, your content is your own, but your consciousness is not. It would be more accurate to say there is a superconsciousness expressing itself as who you are. Who we are. You do not create yourself. Your existence itself is produced by Life which is aware of itself through your existence and experience. Strange as it may seem. Meher Baba, the silent mystic wrote, nirvana is samsara and samsara is nirvana, or the ultimate exists in the everyday, and the everyday is the expression of the ultimate. Only a few can understand this. Perhaps you are not one of them. Don't feel bad or get angry. Just enjoy the life you have, the who you are. You don't have to be concerned with what is really going on. Like a child that has no awareness of the world outside of his home at first, but it's all going on anyway. Of course, this annoys you and you feel angry, and that is your content at the moment, but who is having this experience? Only you, the individual ego? Which is suspended in what? Which resides in what? The puppet says, " come on, nobody is pulling my strings, there are not strings, I'm not connected to anything. " The earth says, " look at me going round and round, nothing is influencing me. The sun is over there, and I am over here. It has nothing to do with me. " You are not a puppet, and you are not the earth, and you are not alone in being what and who you are, even though you protest any connection to anything outside of yourself. Larry Epston www.epston.com p.s. Are you having a good time? I hope so, because I am. This is my kind of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Larry, There is no consciousness separate from its content. Consciousness is its content. And that is your only chance to be. Consciousness as kind of mirror reflecting objects is a very old myth and is the origin of generations of confused spiritual seekers. And you, Larry, are one of them. Werner Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 12/19/2005 4:02:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069@h... writes: > > > Silver: You don't know what I'm feeling either > > because my content is mine alone and yours is yours. Larry is saying > > that we share the same content. He's saying that there is some kind > > of supercontent possessing us and seeing everything that we see and > > thinking our thoughts and feeling what we feel. It's absurd! > > > > Silver > > L.E: Yes, your content is your own, but your consciousness is not. It would > be more accurate to say there is a superconsciousness expressing itself as > who you are. Who we are. You do not create yourself. Your existence itself is > produced by Life which is aware of itself through your existence and > experience. Strange as it may seem. > Meher Baba, the silent mystic wrote, nirvana is samsara and samsara is > nirvana, > or the ultimate exists in the everyday, and the everyday is the expression of > the ultimate. Only a few can understand this. Perhaps you are not one of > them. > Don't feel bad or get angry. Just enjoy the life you have, the who you are. > You don't have to be concerned with what is really going on. Like a child > that has no awareness of the world outside of his home at first, but it's all > going on anyway. > Of course, this annoys you and you feel angry, and that is your content at > the moment, but who is having this experience? Only you, the individual ego? > Which is suspended in what? Which resides in what? > The puppet says, " come on, nobody is pulling my strings, there are not > strings, I'm not connected to anything. " > The earth says, " look at me going round and round, nothing is influencing me. > The sun is over there, and I am over here. It has nothing to do with me. " > You are not a puppet, and you are not the earth, and you are not alone in > being what and who you are, even though you protest any connection to anything > outside of yourself. > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com > > > p.s. Are you having a good time? I hope so, because I am. This is my kind > of fun. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Werner as a kind of " content being consciousness " is a very old myth and is the origin of generations of enlightened noones. And me, waaba, is one of them. Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Larry, > > There is no consciousness separate from its content. Consciousness is > its content. And that is your only chance to be. > > Consciousness as kind of mirror reflecting objects is a very old myth > and is the origin of generations of confused spiritual seekers. And > you, Larry, are one of them. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 12/19/2005 4:02:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > silver-1069@h... writes: > > > > > Silver: You don't know what I'm feeling either > > > because my content is mine alone and yours is yours. Larry is > saying > > > that we share the same content. He's saying that there is some > kind > > > of supercontent possessing us and seeing everything that we see > and > > > thinking our thoughts and feeling what we feel. It's absurd! > > > > > > Silver > > > > L.E: Yes, your content is your own, but your consciousness is > not. It would > > be more accurate to say there is a superconsciousness expressing > itself as > > who you are. Who we are. You do not create yourself. Your > existence itself is > > produced by Life which is aware of itself through your existence > and > > experience. Strange as it may seem. > > Meher Baba, the silent mystic wrote, nirvana is samsara and samsara > is > > nirvana, > > or the ultimate exists in the everyday, and the everyday is the > expression of > > the ultimate. Only a few can understand this. Perhaps you are not > one of > > them. > > Don't feel bad or get angry. Just enjoy the life you have, the who > you are. > > You don't have to be concerned with what is really going on. Like > a child > > that has no awareness of the world outside of his home at first, > but it's all > > going on anyway. > > Of course, this annoys you and you feel angry, and that is your > content at > > the moment, but who is having this experience? Only you, the > individual ego? > > Which is suspended in what? Which resides in what? > > The puppet says, " come on, nobody is pulling my strings, there are > not > > strings, I'm not connected to anything. " > > The earth says, " look at me going round and round, nothing is > influencing me. > > The sun is over there, and I am over here. It has nothing to do > with me. " > > You are not a puppet, and you are not the earth, and you are not > alone in > > being what and who you are, even though you protest any connection > to anything > > outside of yourself. > > > > Larry Epston > > www.epston.com > > > > > > p.s. Are you having a good time? I hope so, because I am. This > is my kind > > of fun. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Congratulation ! Werner Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote: > > Werner as a kind of " content being consciousness " is a very old myth > and is the origin of generations of enlightened noones. And me, > waaba, is one of them. > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > > > Larry, > > > > There is no consciousness separate from its content. Consciousness > is > > its content. And that is your only chance to be. > > > > Consciousness as kind of mirror reflecting objects is a very old > myth > > and is the origin of generations of confused spiritual seekers. And > > you, Larry, are one of them. > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 12/19/2005 4:02:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > silver-1069@h... writes: > > > > > > > Silver: You don't know what I'm feeling either > > > > because my content is mine alone and yours is yours. Larry is > > saying > > > > that we share the same content. He's saying that there is some > > kind > > > > of supercontent possessing us and seeing everything that we see > > and > > > > thinking our thoughts and feeling what we feel. It's absurd! > > > > > > > > Silver > > > > > > L.E: Yes, your content is your own, but your consciousness is > > not. It would > > > be more accurate to say there is a superconsciousness expressing > > itself as > > > who you are. Who we are. You do not create yourself. Your > > existence itself is > > > produced by Life which is aware of itself through your existence > > and > > > experience. Strange as it may seem. > > > Meher Baba, the silent mystic wrote, nirvana is samsara and > samsara > > is > > > nirvana, > > > or the ultimate exists in the everyday, and the everyday is the > > expression of > > > the ultimate. Only a few can understand this. Perhaps you are > not > > one of > > > them. > > > Don't feel bad or get angry. Just enjoy the life you have, the > who > > you are. > > > You don't have to be concerned with what is really going on. > Like > > a child > > > that has no awareness of the world outside of his home at first, > > but it's all > > > going on anyway. > > > Of course, this annoys you and you feel angry, and that is your > > content at > > > the moment, but who is having this experience? Only you, the > > individual ego? > > > Which is suspended in what? Which resides in what? > > > The puppet says, " come on, nobody is pulling my strings, there > are > > not > > > strings, I'm not connected to anything. " > > > The earth says, " look at me going round and round, nothing is > > influencing me. > > > The sun is over there, and I am over here. It has nothing to do > > with me. " > > > You are not a puppet, and you are not the earth, and you are not > > alone in > > > being what and who you are, even though you protest any > connection > > to anything > > > outside of yourself. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > www.epston.com > > > > > > > > > p.s. Are you having a good time? I hope so, because I am. This > > is my kind > > > of fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 L.E: " Yes, your content is your own, but your consciousness is not. " Silver: Larry, my consciousness is my content. LE: " It would be more accurate to say there is a superconsciousness expressing itself as who you are. Who we are. " Silver: Well, I don't agree with you. I do not perceive a superconsciousness expressing itself as me, living vicariously through me. The onus is on you to prove your assertion. LE: " You do not create yourself. Your existence itself is produced by Life which is aware of itself through your existence and experience. Strange as it may seem. " Silver: Prove it. LE: " Meher Baba, the silent mystic wrote, nirvana is samsara and samsara is nirvana, or the ultimate exists in the everyday, and the everyday is the expression of the ultimate. Only a few can understand this. Perhaps you are not one of them. " Silver: What's so difficult to understand about it? LE: " Don't feel bad or get angry. Just enjoy the life you have, the who you are. " Silver: I never said I don't enjoy my life or myself. LE: " You don't have to be concerned with what is really going on. Like a child that has no awareness of the world outside of his home at first, but it's all going on anyway. " Silver: Shit happens. I am not concerned. LE: " Of course, this annoys you and you feel angry, and that is your content at the moment, but who is having this experience? " Silver: I am not having the experience you think I am. LE: " Only you, the individual ego? " Silver: I am experiencing something, yes. Fatigue, mostly. I doubt anyone else is experiencing my own fatigue. LE: " Which is suspended in what? Which resides in what? The puppet says, " come on, nobody is pulling my strings, there are not strings, I'm not connected to anything. " The earth says, " look at me going round and round, nothing is influencing me. The sun is over there, and I am over here. It has nothing to do with me. " You are not a puppet, and you are not the earth, and you are not alone in being what and who you are, even though you protest any connection to anything outside of yourself. " Silver: I don't protest it. I deny it. Again, prove your assertions. LE: " p.s. Are you having a good time? I hope so, because I am. This is my kind of fun. " Silver: Yes, I'm having fun, Larry, but it's way past my bedtime now and I'm about to get cranky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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