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In a message dated 12/25/2005 9:24:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

illieusion writes:

 

However, I suggest it would have be more " apt "

(if less poetic!) if he had said:

 

When a jar is placed on the ground,

We have the ground with a jar;

When the jar is taken away,

We have the ground without a jar;

 

But when neither of these conditions exists,

the ground in its unqualified state is

*revealed* as it is, unqualified.

 

I'm still in the process of reading your generous reply, but I want to

comment at this stage anyhow.

 

If he had said,

 

When both the jar on the ground,

And the jar off the ground,

And the ground itself is taken away

The unqualified state is

revealed as it is, unqualified.

 

He insists that " the ground' still exists as the unqualified state,

doesn't he?

 

My comment is like saying that even the condition of mind must be given up to

move into the unqualified state.

 

Do you agree?

 

 

 

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the jar on the ground

removed once

replaced twice

broken beyond

any and all repairs

remains

to be seen

 

 

Ana

 

-

epston

Nisargadatta

Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:50 PM

Re: The Jar, the Ground, and the Unqualified State

 

 

In a message dated 12/25/2005 9:24:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

illieusion writes:

 

However, I suggest it would have be more " apt "

(if less poetic!) if he had said:

 

When a jar is placed on the ground,

We have the ground with a jar;

When the jar is taken away,

We have the ground without a jar;

 

But when neither of these conditions exists,

the ground in its unqualified state is

*revealed* as it is, unqualified.

 

I'm still in the process of reading your generous reply, but I want to

comment at this stage anyhow.

 

If he had said,

 

When both the jar on the ground,

And the jar off the ground,

And the ground itself is taken away

The unqualified state is

revealed as it is, unqualified.

 

He insists that " the ground' still exists as the unqualified state,

doesn't he?

 

My comment is like saying that even the condition of mind must be given up to

move into the unqualified state.

 

Do you agree?

 

 

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Hi Larry,

 

I'll wait for your complete reply

before giving mine.

 

Bill

 

>

> In a message dated 12/25/2005 9:24:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> illieusion@h... writes:

>

> However, I suggest it would have be more " apt "

> (if less poetic!) if he had said:

>

> When a jar is placed on the ground,

> We have the ground with a jar;

> When the jar is taken away,

> We have the ground without a jar;

>

> But when neither of these conditions exists,

> the ground in its unqualified state is

> *revealed* as it is, unqualified.

>

> I'm still in the process of reading your generous reply, but I want to

> comment at this stage anyhow.

>

> If he had said,

>

> When both the jar on the ground,

> And the jar off the ground,

> And the ground itself is taken away

> The unqualified state is

> revealed as it is, unqualified.

>

> He insists that " the ground' still exists as the unqualified state,

> doesn't he?

>

> My comment is like saying that even the condition of mind must be

given up to

> move into the unqualified state.

>

> Do you agree?

>

>

>

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How fun!

 

Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote:

>

> the jar on the ground

> removed once

> replaced twice

> broken beyond

> any and all repairs

> remains

> to be seen

>

>

> Ana

>

> -

> epston@a...

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:50 PM

> Re: The Jar, the Ground, and the

Unqualified State

>

>

> In a message dated 12/25/2005 9:24:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> illieusion@h... writes:

>

> However, I suggest it would have be more " apt "

> (if less poetic!) if he had said:

>

> When a jar is placed on the ground,

> We have the ground with a jar;

> When the jar is taken away,

> We have the ground without a jar;

>

> But when neither of these conditions exists,

> the ground in its unqualified state is

> *revealed* as it is, unqualified.

>

> I'm still in the process of reading your generous reply, but I

want to

> comment at this stage anyhow.

>

> If he had said,

>

> When both the jar on the ground,

> And the jar off the ground,

> And the ground itself is taken away

> The unqualified state is

> revealed as it is, unqualified.

>

> He insists that " the ground' still exists as the unqualified state,

> doesn't he?

>

> My comment is like saying that even the condition of mind must be

given up to

> move into the unqualified state.

>

> Do you agree?

>

>

>

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