Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 His framework is traditional, that the seeker senses he is missing something and the ultimate purpose is to seek until possibly finding out the truth. I don't see or feel this. Larry I'm not sure I understand. Sure, everything's perfect as it is, which doesn't imply it is to remain as it is. Are you saying you don't experience anything missing; no desire; no longing? Or are you suggesting there's no existence beyond the illusion of life? Or are you suggesting there is no purpose? Phil In a message dated 12/25/2005 10:33:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: epston No Need To Escape _lindman writes: Here is a sound clip with Tony Parsons called " No Escape " : Hi! I went there and heard the talk. Yes, very good, but with some difficulty with the " dreamer " part. I see it a little differently. Each person that talks about these things see them through, as, his/her individuality, so there are many different flavors so to speak. If you listen and get it, that's all that counts. His framework is traditional, that the seeker senses he is missing something and the ultimate purpose is to seek until possibly finding out the truth. I don't see or feel this. What I AM is Life Itself, in this I agree, but all the human stuff is what Life Itself is being and doing. So there is no gap, no place where Life is not. You can see that everything else is running as it must, as it does. All the aspects of outer space in which the earth floats is perfect. All the life on the earth, the growing things, the living things are perfect. Everything is behaving as it is and that is just fine. Then there is us. Humans. Well, without looking at the details, we are just like everything else, perfect and running just as it does. And when you get down into it, into the details of human life, you see all this behavior, some good, some bad, some peaceful, some war-like, but who, or what is doing all of this? It is Life Itself, the same Life that is existing as, and operating as the whole universe and everything in it. So whatever you do, or think or feel, is the behavior of this Whole Life Being. In that sense, there are no mistakes or errors, and that everything is perfect just as it is. And within this situation as you do what you want, you are IT, Life, doing what it wants just as you, just as everyone else. You are not being controlled, or a puppet, you just ARE, just as is everything else, and as you choose, IT chooses, as you think, IT thinks. You and I are the activity of Life Itself. Just accept it and you will feel better. No problem being who you are and doing whatever you choose to do. You are IT, IT is you, so there, now just get on with it. Write your book, love you girlfriend, eat your food, talk to your friends, and enjoy being the Life You Are. Or suffer, as you choose. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 - ADHHUB Nisargadatta Monday, December 26, 2005 6:14 AM Re: Here is a sound clip with Tony Parsons called " No Escape " : His framework is traditional, that the seeker senses he is missing something and the ultimate purpose is to seek until possibly finding out the truth. I don't see or feel this. Larry I'm not sure I understand. Sure, everything's perfect as it is, which doesn't imply it is to remain as it is. Are you saying you don't experience anything missing; no desire; no longing? Or are you suggesting there's no existence beyond the illusion of life? Or are you suggesting there is no purpose? Phil Morning Loves, To see What Is is to see simultaneously a Trinity. Have you noticed how often a trinity is observed in religions and nature? I Am I Am THIS I Am This BECOMMING. Brahma Vishnu Shiva God the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit I, noOne, I (add your favourite____) A 'Locus'. In Mathematics. The set or configuration of all points whose coordinates satisfy a single equation or one or more algebraic conditions. (the unknown number) The unknown unborn Buddha mind...works for me. Ana In a message dated 12/25/2005 10:33:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: epston No Need To Escape _lindman writes: Here is a sound clip with Tony Parsons called " No Escape " : Hi! I went there and heard the talk. Yes, very good, but with some difficulty with the " dreamer " part. I see it a little differently. Each person that talks about these things see them through, as, his/her individuality, so there are many different flavors so to speak. If you listen and get it, that's all that counts. His framework is traditional, that the seeker senses he is missing something and the ultimate purpose is to seek until possibly finding out the truth. I don't see or feel this. What I AM is Life Itself, in this I agree, but all the human stuff is what Life Itself is being and doing. So there is no gap, no place where Life is not. You can see that everything else is running as it must, as it does. All the aspects of outer space in which the earth floats is perfect. All the life on the earth, the growing things, the living things are perfect. Everything is behaving as it is and that is just fine. Then there is us. Humans. Well, without looking at the details, we are just like everything else, perfect and running just as it does. And when you get down into it, into the details of human life, you see all this behavior, some good, some bad, some peaceful, some war-like, but who, or what is doing all of this? It is Life Itself, the same Life that is existing as, and operating as the whole universe and everything in it. So whatever you do, or think or feel, is the behavior of this Whole Life Being. In that sense, there are no mistakes or errors, and that everything is perfect just as it is. And within this situation as you do what you want, you are IT, Life, doing what it wants just as you, just as everyone else. You are not being controlled, or a puppet, you just ARE, just as is everything else, and as you choose, IT chooses, as you think, IT thinks. You and I are the activity of Life Itself. Just accept it and you will feel better. No problem being who you are and doing whatever you choose to do. You are IT, IT is you, so there, now just get on with it. Write your book, love you girlfriend, eat your food, talk to your friends, and enjoy being the Life You Are. Or suffer, as you choose. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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