Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Bliss Bliss is understanding what is to be understood and rejoicing in that understanding. I understand it in the smile of my child when she looks this way for no other reason than that she loves me. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the taste of beer by which I derive a measure of good cheer. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the smell of burning sage which lifts my soul to the realm of Heaven. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the sight of a silvery full moon shimmering over the dark waters at Moonlight Beach. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the sound of a hundred drums beating inside my chest as I merge into a drumming circle at Harvest Fest. And it makes my heart rejoice. But soon, my wonderful child stops smiling; the beer runs out; the smoke of sage burns up; the full moon vanishes; and the drumming stops. I understand bliss in the rejoicing of my heart and I rejoice in the understanding of that. Furthermore, I rejoice in the understanding that all things have a begining and an end. And it makes my heart rejoice to understand that all things that have an end must have a begining. And so I begin again. And it makes my heart rejoice. Silver Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > First tell me Silver, what jar would/should/could bliss come in? > what would it feel like, > what would it taste like, > what would it smell like, > what would it look like, > what would you think you had to do to find bliss? > And how would bliss speak to you? > > Ana > - > s_i_l_v_e_r1069 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:34 PM > Re: The Silver Jar > > > I have two bottles of shampoo here. > > The first is a product called, 'Herbal Essences' and makes the claim > that, " Wildly exciting is our normal. " It goes on to say, " Enter a > world of botanical bliss and unleash the power of your beautifully > refreshed hair. Embracing you like a meadow of fresh flowers, this > luxurious shampoo...will take your hair to a place it's never been > before: renewed, radiant and naturally flowing. " > > The second bottle is a product called, 'Herbal Garden.' It makes no > glowing promises to the buyer other than to say it will leave my hair > feeling " lustrously clean and soft. " > > Both products contain the same ingredients: aloe, chamomile and > passionflower. > > I do not experience anything " wildly exciting " from using either of > the two products and my hair looks and feels the same way it always > has afterwards. It doesn't feel renewed and radiant, nor does it > flow. It merely feels clean and soft but not lustrously so. (Hey, > that rhymed!) > > Where is the promised bliss from gaining enlightenment? > > Silver > > Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > > ah, silver see the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. > > > > Enlightenment has nothing to do with anything. It is what it is. > Just this. > > > > Enjoy your disappointment. Did ya ever think you could do that? > Well, > > you can if you see the light of enchantment in the land of > disappointment, > > an appointment with the here and now. > > > > Eh? > > > > smiles and hugs, > > Ana > > - > > s_i_l_v_e_r1069 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:17 PM > > Re: The Silver Jar > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dannyc_1eyeluv " > > <dannyc_1eyeluv> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " > > > <silver-1069@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > P: listen, my silvery friend, > > > > > as of now, you are a mirror > > > > > with delusions of grandeur. > > > > > The face you reflect isn't 'you', > > > > > you are not even the mirror, > > > > > 'you', are just a self- aware > > > > > reflection of a face that will > > > > > for ever remain unknown. > > > > > > > > > > Deal with it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > A dead end, Pete? If I drive into a dead end, I deal with it > > like > > > > this: I turn around and go back the other way, in search of > > another > > > > open road. So far, all the roads I have travelled have led > me to > > a > > > > dead end. I think I'm starting to realize that all roads > lead to > > the > > > > same place and I'm getting very tired of driving all over the > > place > > > > for nothing. What's the point of my constant searching? > > > > > > > > I declare myself to be a spiritual schitzophrenic! I'm ill, > I > > tell > > > > you. > > > > > > > > But I think I'm getting closer to the final Big Dead End > now. If > > > > that's all I've been searching for all these years, a Big > Unknown > > > > Dead End, then so be it. I'll shut my engine off and park > myself > > > > there for ever. But then, how do you deal with that? > > > > > > > > Or do you mean that I should just drop the search altogether > and > > > > simply accept that I am self-aware. Period. What's the big > deal > > in > > > > that? I know I'm self-aware. So what? Wow! I am. Is that > > it!?! > > > > Big f**king deal! So I am. Now what!?! Where's all the > > > > enlightenment in that? I don't see any fireworks or hear any > > fanfare. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Silver, frustrated with all of it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of search for enlightenment have you been engaged in, > > > Silver? > > >I started out with Ramana and ended up with nothing. There's > > > this empty space and stuff arises and falls in it. It's quite > > > miraculous in an ordinary kind of way. > > > > > > dannyc > > > > > ****I've walked as far as I could down many different paths, none > of > > which have enlightened me. Have I wasted years in a frantic > search > > for nothing? To be aware of stuff that rises and falls in empty > > space does'nt seem all that miraculous to me. I guess I expected > > enlightenment to be an extraordinary thing. Yet, it seems that > it's > > not and I'm feeling quite disappointed. Maybe I just don't get > it > > and never will. > > > > Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 In a message dated 12/27/2005 10:01:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: The Silver Jar/Silver Bliss Bliss is understanding what is to be understood and rejoicing in that understanding. I understand it in the smile of my child when she looks this way for no other reason than that she loves me. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the taste of beer by which I derive a measure of good cheer. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the smell of burning sage which lifts my soul to the realm of Heaven. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the sight of a silvery full moon shimmering over the dark waters at Moonlight Beach. And it makes my heart rejoice. I understand it in the sound of a hundred drums beating inside my chest as I merge into a drumming circle at Harvest Fest. And it makes my heart rejoice. But soon, my wonderful child stops smiling; the beer runs out; the smoke of sage burns up; the full moon vanishes; and the drumming stops. I understand bliss in the rejoicing of my heart and I rejoice in the understanding of that. Furthermore, I rejoice in the understanding that all things have a begining and an end. And it makes my heart rejoice to understand that all things that have an end must have a begining. And so I begin again. And it makes my heart rejoice. Silver That was an enjoyable read. Absotively, bliss is a dualistic experience that not only ends but is typically followed by something that is decidedly unblissful. What we seek is not dualistic at all. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/27/2005 10:01:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069@h...> > Re: The Silver Jar/Silver > > Bliss > > Bliss is understanding what is to be understood and rejoicing in that > understanding. > > I understand it in the smile of my child when she looks this way for > no other reason than that she loves me. And it makes my heart > rejoice. > > I understand it in the taste of beer by which I derive a measure of > good cheer. And it makes my heart rejoice. > > I understand it in the smell of burning sage which lifts my soul to > the realm of Heaven. And it makes my heart rejoice. > > I understand it in the sight of a silvery full moon shimmering over > the dark waters at Moonlight Beach. And it makes my heart rejoice. > > I understand it in the sound of a hundred drums beating inside my > chest as I merge into a drumming circle at Harvest Fest. And it > makes my heart rejoice. > > But soon, my wonderful child stops smiling; > the beer runs out; > the smoke of sage burns up; > the full moon vanishes; > and the drumming stops. > > I understand bliss in the rejoicing of my heart and I rejoice in the > understanding of that. > > Furthermore, I rejoice in the understanding that all things have a > begining and an end. And it makes my heart rejoice to understand > that all things that have an end must have a begining. And so I > begin again. And it makes my heart rejoice. > > Silver > > > > > That was an enjoyable read. > Absotively, bliss is a dualistic experience that not only ends but is > typically followed by something that is decidedly unblissful. What we seek is not > dualistic at all. > > Phil ***That said, I hereby renounce as false the idea that enlightenment is bliss. Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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