Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 In a message dated 12/28/2005 10:51:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami > > God (Holy Spirit) And Human Incarnation > > STATEMENT: - MATHEW 10: 40 > > Lord Jesus was the human incarnation of the Holy Spirit. The human body of > Holy Jesus is like the metallic wire, etc. This is the kind of ideology that keeps people enslaved and trapped in religious organizations. The average person does not have the ability to think or feel their way out of this nonsense. Da Dree John is like this too, having the ability to snare people in his verbal power, trap them, and enslave them. Too bad, another too bad among many too bads, but that's how it is, and that's what life is being through us, as them. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 In a message dated 12/29/2005 2:15:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > but don't think others are fools and you are only great, there is equal > probability for you to falter because we are all human beings only. > > when many no. of people are following krishna & Jesus as God, do you mean to > say that not even a single intelligent humanbeing is there in that group? > I object to your lowly opinion of human beings. Yes there are people of intelligence in many areas of human knowledge who follow Krishna or Jesus, and there are many who do not. It is imporatant to choose which are the most intelligent. And in the end, a person must choose for themselves which is the correct way. Some only have belief to rely on and must follow blindly. To bad if they choose the wrong direction. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 dear friend Blind belief can be associated with perfect basis/logic or without proper basis. How can you assess from distance. The only means is to come out with meaningful questions and wait for the answers and without that if concluded that is also one of blindness. Some people are idolators of some gurus and some are their own idolators. In essence the same. it looks to me that you neither believe Krishna nor Jesus. probably you believe in yourself only. but don't think others are fools and you are only great, there is equal probability for you to falter because we are all human beings only. when many no. of people are following krishna & Jesus as God, do you mean to say that not even a single intelligent humanbeing is there in that group? instead of calling all of them wrong, why don't you analyse yourself and find out where you are deviating from them? if you find that point the solution is in front of you. if you discard the divine knowledge preached by both of them and depend on yourself only it is near impossible for you to progress in spirituality until and unless you are the creator. in which case you don't require any spiritual effort. i hope you will view this positively. surya at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org epston wrote: In a message dated 12/28/2005 10:51:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami > > God (Holy Spirit) And Human Incarnation > > STATEMENT: - MATHEW 10: 40 > > Lord Jesus was the human incarnation of the Holy Spirit. The human body of > Holy Jesus is like the metallic wire, etc. This is the kind of ideology that keeps people enslaved and trapped in religious organizations. The average person does not have the ability to think or feel their way out of this nonsense. Da Dree John is like this too, having the ability to snare people in his verbal power, trap them, and enslave them. Too bad, another too bad among many too bads, but that's how it is, and that's what life is being through us, as them. Larry Epston www.epston.com Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 12/28/2005 10:51:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, > dattapr2000 writes: > > > Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami > > > > God (Holy Spirit) And Human Incarnation > > > > STATEMENT: - MATHEW 10: 40 > > > > Lord Jesus was the human incarnation of the Holy Spirit. The human body of > > Holy Jesus is like the metallic wire, etc. > > This is the kind of ideology that keeps people enslaved and trapped in > religious organizations. The average person does not have the ability to think or > feel their way out of this nonsense. Da Dree John is like this too, having the > ability to snare people in his verbal power, trap them, and enslave them. > Too bad, another too bad among many too bads, but that's how it is, and that's > what life is being through us, as them. > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com > > .....yes....some believe that they are more " equal " than " others " .... (if there are " others " or not....maybe thats not so much a " religious " question) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 In a message dated 12/29/2005 2:15:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > if you discard the divine knowledge preached by both of them and depend on > yourself only it is near impossible for you to progress in spirituality until > and unless you are the creator. in which case you don't require any > spiritual effort. i hope you will view this positively. L.E: And who is it that is doing the preaching? People of intelligence or of non-intelligence. It is hard to say. Memorizing many scriptures may allow a preacher to appear wise when he it not wise. To pretend to represent truth, but does not represent truth. Throw all the books away, then talk to me about what you know, not what you believe. Then I will listen to you. Those who talk from books are blind, dead and mistaken. Progress in spirituality takes many forms and comes from many experiences. You cannot define what progrss is from the position of a believer. Belief is never, and cannot be a source of wisdom, truth or power. You can only trap people. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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