Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 In a message dated 12/30/2005 1:55:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB writes: > PatriciaThen why o why do I get back > into the web of time ?? > > L.E: Time does not exist in the moment. You would know that is you fell > into > stillness. > > Phil: Okay, do you see that Patricia is asking why she gets BACK into time > after stillness? That question implies that she is NOT experiencing time in > the > stillness. This further implies that she does indeed know this. > > L.E. Yeah, you're correct. So, what is your answer to her? > Mine is: Time and timelessnes are connected. One creates the other. Both > are part of the Whole. It is only necessary to accept the connection. Most > people have no idea there is timelessness. To realize that is to fulfill > completeness, and that's that. The situation reminds me of an oyster. You can > pry it open a little bit without killing it to see inside. Meditation is like > prying open the oyser. When meditation is over, we snap back into time. > The only difference is that in time, we are aware that timelessness exists, and > most do not. > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 In a message dated 12/30/2005 3:03:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: > I'll bite my tongue on the rest of it.) > Do that. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 12/30/2005 1:55:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, > ADHHUB@A... writes: > > > PatriciaThen why o why do I get back > > into the web of time ?? > > > > L.E: Time does not exist in the moment. You would know that is you fell > > into > > stillness. > > > > Phil: Okay, do you see that Patricia is asking why she gets BACK into time > > after stillness? That question implies that she is NOT experiencing time in > > the > > stillness. This further implies that she does indeed know this. > > > > L.E. Yeah, you're correct. So, what is your answer to her? > > Mine is: Time and timelessnes are connected. One creates the other. Both > > are part of the Whole. It is only necessary to accept the connection. Most > > people have no idea there is timelessness. To realize that is to fulfill > > completeness, and that's that. The situation reminds me of an oyster. You can > > pry it open a little bit without killing it to see inside. Meditation is like > > prying open the oyser. When meditation is over, we snap back into time. > > The only difference is that in time, we are aware that timelessness exists, and > > most do not. > > > > Larry Epston > > www.epston.com If there is no time, then how could it be connected to anything? (I'm sorry, Phil. I had to. I'll bite my tongue on the rest of it.) " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 In a message dated 12/30/2005 2:52:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: epston Re: Phil-Web of Time In a message dated 12/30/2005 1:55:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB writes: > PatriciaThen why o why do I get back > into the web of time ?? > > L.E: Time does not exist in the moment. You would know that is you fell > into > stillness. > > Phil: Okay, do you see that Patricia is asking why she gets BACK into time > after stillness? That question implies that she is NOT experiencing time in > the > stillness. This further implies that she does indeed know this. > > L.E. Yeah, you're correct. So, what is your answer to her? > Mine is: Time and timelessnes are connected. One creates the other. Both > are part of the Whole. It is only necessary to accept the connection. Most > people have no idea there is timelessness. To realize that is to fulfill > completeness, and that's that. The situation reminds me of an oyster. You can > pry it open a little bit without killing it to see inside. Meditation is like > prying open the oyser. When meditation is over, we snap back into time. > The only difference is that in time, we are aware that timelessness exists, and > most do not. > > Larry Epston I see linear time as a sort of magic trick superimposed on Reality, made possible by thought/memory, which are themselves superimpositions. Without the ability to freeze a frame of the eternal present moment, there would be no perception of 'past'. To recall a frame, which exists only in memory storage, and use thought to project that into a supposed future is all that yields the perception of future. If thought is not used to recall or project, there can be no perception of time. This is what occurs in meditation. Our friend looses that stillness when the (usually unconscious) thought occurs that the mind is no more than it's own thoughts about itself, and it trembles in fear of it's own dissolution. I see this because this is what occurs in my mind. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 In a message dated 12/30/2005 10:16:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: Phil-Web of Time Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 12/30/2005 1:55:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, > ADHHUB@A... writes: > > > PatriciaThen why o why do I get back > > into the web of time ?? > > > > L.E: Time does not exist in the moment. You would know that is you fell > > into > > stillness. > > > > Phil: Okay, do you see that Patricia is asking why she gets BACK into time > > after stillness? That question implies that she is NOT experiencing time in > > the > > stillness. This further implies that she does indeed know this. > > > > L.E. Yeah, you're correct. So, what is your answer to her? > > Mine is: Time and timelessnes are connected. One creates the other. Both > > are part of the Whole. It is only necessary to accept the connection. Most > > people have no idea there is timelessness. To realize that is to fulfill > > completeness, and that's that. The situation reminds me of an oyster. You can > > pry it open a little bit without killing it to see inside. Meditation is like > > prying open the oyser. When meditation is over, we snap back into time. > > The only difference is that in time, we are aware that timelessness exists, and > > most do not. > > > > Larry Epston > > www.epston.com If there is no time, then how could it be connected to anything? (I'm sorry, Phil. I had to. I'll bite my tongue on the rest of it.) " Silver " Oh, no tongue biting required. There's no reason I should have all the 'fun'. Hehe. It's usually a safe bet to say all things are connected cause there's just One thing to begin with, but it's not meaningful, to me, to take an illusion (time), create a duality out of it (timelessness) and then say they're connected. It's a little like saying glorp and glorplessness are connected. They're connected only because I made em up and connected em. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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