Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 In a message dated 12/31/2005 12:36:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: epston Re: Phil-Teaching theTeacher In a message dated 12/30/2005 5:15:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB writes: > In the deeper sense, I am my own company, and that's O.K. too. > > > >Larry > > > > It's like the telescope thing. From one side large, from the other small. > When I want or need someone to complain to, they exist, if I don't want > them > > there, they don't exist. In that sense, both are true. I think you are > stuck > in the large side point of view, which is no point of view. From the > other > side, there are multiple points of view. Samsard is nirvana and nirvana is > > samsara, Both views are equally true and exist. Or rather, one side > exists > and > the other doesn't exist, if you prefer, Stefan > > > Larry Epston > > > Okay, how did I become a part of this com=nversation? Hehe. I believe you > were talking to Stephan. Perhaps you are correct, Phil (see change above) > As far as Samsara and Nirvana being equally true, how is this so when one > is > Truth and the other illusion? > > Phil That's the whole incredible situation. The illusion is the Truth in action. Everyday life is the activity of LIFE, the Truth. It's very strange. If you get it, it will make your hair rise up, and chills go down your back. In the Truth is the illusion, and in the illusion, is the Truth. Think of the telescope again. The large view and the limited view are connected. It all depends on which end you are looking through. The realized one can see it from either or both points of view. The ordinary person only can see it from the limited point of view. Is that worth the effort? Limited versus unlimited? Larry Epston www.epston.com > > p.s. Think of E = mc2. E is energy. mc2 is material. Material is related to energy. Two sides of the same coin. Energy is space (sort of) mc2 is substance, material. Samsara=Nirvana, Nirvana= Samsara. Same thing, same thing, same thing!!!! Truth = Illusion, Illusion = Truth. Same thing, same thing, same thing. Well, the analogies aren't meaningful. We can say, 'frog=amphibian. Amphibian=frog. Same thing, same thing, same thing' But that has nothing to do with making Absolute Truth the same as illusion. This is a dualistic conceptualization. They are opposite, by definition. Would you conceptualize light and say 'light=dark, dark=light'? Is the illusion also God? Yes. So what? God is not a concept. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/31/2005 12:36:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > epston@a... > Re: Phil-Teaching theTeacher > > In a message dated 12/30/2005 5:15:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ADHHUB@A... writes: > > > In the deeper sense, I am my own company, and that's O.K. too. > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > It's like the telescope thing. From one side large, from the other small. > > When I want or need someone to complain to, they exist, if I don't want > > them > > > > there, they don't exist. In that sense, both are true. I think you are > > stuck > > in the large side point of view, which is no point of view. From the > > other > > side, there are multiple points of view. Samsard is nirvana and nirvana > is > > > > samsara, Both views are equally true and exist. Or rather, one side > > exists > > and > > the other doesn't exist, if you prefer, Stefan > > > > > > Larry Epston > > > > > > Okay, how did I become a part of this com=nversation? Hehe. I believe you > > were talking to Stephan. > > Perhaps you are correct, Phil (see change above) > > > As far as Samsara and Nirvana being equally true, how is this so when one > > > is > > Truth and the other illusion? > > > > Phil > > That's the whole incredible situation. The illusion is the Truth in action. > > Everyday life is the activity of LIFE, the Truth. > It's very strange. > If you get it, it will make your hair rise up, and chills go down your back. > In the Truth is the illusion, and in the illusion, is the Truth. > Think of the telescope again. The large view and the limited view are > connected. It all > depends on which end you are looking through. > The realized one can see it from either or both points of view. The > ordinary > person only can see it from the limited point of view. Is that worth the > effort? Limited versus unlimited? > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com > > > > > p.s. Think of E = mc2. E is energy. mc2 is material. Material is > related > to energy. Two sides of the same coin. Energy is space (sort of) mc2 is > substance, material. Samsara=Nirvana, Nirvana= Samsara. Same thing, same > thing, > same thing!!!! Truth = Illusion, Illusion = Truth. Same thing, same > thing, > same thing. Well, the analogies aren't meaningful. We can say, 'frog=amphibian. > Amphibian=frog. Same thing, same thing, same thing' But that has nothing to do with > making Absolute Truth the same as illusion. This is a dualistic > conceptualization. They are opposite, by definition. Would you conceptualize light and say > 'light=dark, dark=light'? > > Is the illusion also God? Yes. So what? God is not a concept. > > Phil Your reply to His Holiness Larry Epston here is perfectly logical and clear to me, Phil. (Keep doin' 'yer thang!) " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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