Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:00:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: GO TO THE END > see in the case of Gopikas. As per your statement your friend may be the > human incarnation if he emits such special spiritual knowledge associated with > love and bliss. Otherwise he can be considered as a devotee if he shows the > external detachment also. Otherwise he should be considered as a person trying > to become a devotee and in such case he will be dancing between the world > and God. He may be also considered as ‘Yoga Bhrasta’ who has slipped into the > world, but retains his divine contact from the previous birth. In > such case he will shortly become a real devotee, who is eligible to become > human incarnation also, provided the Lord enters his body to do some special > divine work related to his divine mission. > > posted by: His servant > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > www.universal-spirituality.org > My question to you Mr. SERVANT, is do you have anything of your own. Have you discovered any truth or reality or substance other than your submission, servant-hood to a written text. Are you the dumb beast of burden carrying this book on your back, thinking that you are doing a great thing for humanity? If so, you are living a pitiful life oppressed by you fascination with another's mind. Experience your own mind and drop your burden, your addiction to a book and writings from so long ago. The truth you seek is now, and you can discover it by letting your mind clear of this old stuff, and experience the new, the fresh the always is of the present and the great life that resides here and now. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 my dear friend Sri Rama Krishna parama hamasa (Satguru or Lord in human form) asked swami vivakananda to propagate the divine knowledge preached by Him (Sri Rama Krishna). Satguru preaches the divine knowledge and that only is to be propagated by His disciples. They need not go and start their own preaching. The disciples of Jesus also propagated the knwoledge preached by Lord Jesus. They have not told anything new other than what was already preached by Jesus. Only Satguru's knowledge need to be propagated. Disciples need not preach on their own, infact cannot preach also. surya at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org epston wrote: My question to you Mr. SERVANT, is do you have anything of your own. Have you discovered any truth or reality or substance other than your submission, servant-hood to a written text. Are you the dumb beast of burden carrying this book on your back, thinking that you are doing a great thing for humanity? If so, you are living a pitiful life oppressed by you fascination with another's mind. DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Poeple preaching their own truth and experience are called heretic, they are burned for that, I can already smell it, this is why I am so much in trouble right now. I`ve spat to many Shris and Jesus and try to awake to the simplest moments of life. I am the servant of a very unpopular and unloved nothingness.. Patricia --- prakki surya <dattapr2000 a écrit : my dear friend Sri Rama Krishna parama hamasa (Satguru or Lord in human form) asked swami vivakananda to propagate the divine knowledge preached by Him (Sri Rama Krishna). Satguru preaches the divine knowledge and that only is to be propagated by His disciples. They need not go and start their own preaching. The disciples of Jesus also propagated the knwoledge preached by Lord Jesus. They have not told anything new other than what was already preached by Jesus. Only Satguru's knowledge need to be propagated. Disciples need not preach on their own, infact cannot preach also. surya at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org epston wrote: My question to you Mr. SERVANT, is do you have anything of your own. Have you discovered any truth or reality or substance other than your submission, servant-hood to a written text. Are you the dumb beast of burden carrying this book on your back, thinking that you are doing a great thing for humanity? If so, you are living a pitiful life oppressed by you fascination with another's mind. DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami Once a lady was worshipping Jesus by applying a costly scent to Him. A disciple of Jesus criticized this and stated that the cost of the scent would have been spent for feeding the beggars. Jesus condemned the disciple and accepted her service. The reason for such personal service is that she is in the path of Nivrutti. She desires only the Lord and is not interested in the social service. The followers of Nivrutti will even leave the justice for the sake of the Lord (Sarvadharman—Gita). Such souls reach the permanent divine abode of the Lord. One cannot compare Jesus with a rich man who is also enjoying a similar service. The rich man is not God and he has to please the Lord. The final goal is not his selfish pleasure. In the case of Jesus there is no other God whom he should please. The service done to Jesus protected that lady in this world as well as in the upper world. But the service done to the rich man cannot protect anybody. What is the reason for Islam not to accept the human incarnation? Even Mohammed said that He was only the servant of God and He did not claim Himself as the human incarnation, even though He Himself knows the truth That He is the God in Flesh like Buddha or Krishna or Jesus. This reason enlightens the greatness of Islam Religion. Once a real human incarnation is accepted, several fraud human incarnations Claim themselves as God and mislead the spiritual aspirants for their selfish ends. In fact such concept was so much polluted and got so much diluted So that every human being started thinking that he himself is God. In Hinduism this misinterpretation rules the minds of several people Even today and most people think “Aham Brahmaasmi”, which means “I am God”, people say that service to human beings is service to God Because every human being is God only, Sankara condemned this concept Which was a religion called Loka Sevaka Matam, when Jesus was worshipped By a lady who was using some special scent to wash His divine lotus feet, A disciple told that the cost of the scent could have been used to serve the beggars The disciple thought that service to society is better than the personal service Of the Lord, but Jesus immediately replied, “Let her do this service, beggars Are always present in this world but I come rarely to this world”, this shows That the Lord is far greater than the society and the social service is valid only When the Lord gives permission to do so, because the saviour is the Lord And not the society, thus the background of Islam should be properly understood. In this concept it resembles the Dvaita philosophy of Madhva who says that Every human being is only a servant of the Lord and can never become the Lord. Hanuman was very great by His knowledge, devotion and super powers Yet, He never claimed that He is the Lord, he always claimed that He is The servant of the Lord, thus Islam and Hinduism resemble here. The human incarnation does not mean that the God is modified into human body. It means that the God is hidden in the human body like the Sun in the cloud. Therefore, the human incarnation is said as God in flesh, Gita also clears this. Gita says “Manusheem tanumaasritam”, which means that God entered the human body. Gita further says “Avyaktam Vyaktimapannam”, which means that the unimaginable God did not become the imaginable human body because here God entered the body. Thus there is no contradiction between the three religions in this point. The only difference is that Islam treated the human incarnation as a human being In whom the power of God entered like the sunlight of Sun entering a lens. Sun did not enter the lens and hence the lens cannot be treated as the Sun. Such human incarnation is also accepted in Hinduism as ‘Kala Avatara’ Which means that the Kala or the energy of God entered the human being. posted by: His servant at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Poeple preaching their own truth and experience are called heretic, they are burned for that, I can already smell it, this is why I am so much in trouble right now. I`ve spat to many Shris and Jesus and try to awake to the simplest moments of life. I am the servant of a very unpopular and unloved nothingness.. Patricia Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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