Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:15:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, bigwaaba writes: > if i cannot listen to the mind, i will listen to the self! > so, it's done! L.E. Listen to the SELF, not the self, or you will just hear your own voice talking to yourself. And what does the SELF say to you? The SELF will say nothing to you, the SELF is deep total silence. No voice, no messages, Void, Empty, BEING. > -- In Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > >In a message dated 1/2/2006 2:26:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >bigwaaba writes: dear friend, > >> " listening to the mind " > >> > >>You cannot " listen to the mind. " When the mind speaks, you are > the mind. > >>You do not have the mind, the mind has you, is you, until you > realize you > >>are beyond the mind and the mind is in you, part of you, but not > you.. > >> > >>Larry Epston > >>www.epston.com > > > >dear friend, > > > >listening to the mind,to believes (beliefs?) and identifications there are > > many reasons not to love, because love is freedom, total freedom. > >listening to our true Self there is no reason too, just love, love > in action, being happy, making happy, in a living pulsation, a > heartbeat one with existence of this, this, this moment... (This is all just talk, meaning nothing, i.e., rambling garble!) L.E: Love doesn't exist in the SELF, the absolute. Love is a human thing, a relative thing, a conditional thing. You can talk about unconditional love, but it doesn't exist and you will never find it or have it, because it isn't real, it is part of our illusory relative, ordinary life as a person. If that's not enough, too bad for you. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 In a message dated 1/2/2006 1:04:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, wwoehr writes: > If you don't have an empty mind and also never had one for a longer > time then what use is it talking about one's daydreams and hopes of > an empty mind ? L.E: None. There is no use in it. It's just in the way of it. > Are you aware enough to differ between your hopes and ideals and what > is ? L.E: Absolutely. Why, are you having a problem? I have no hopes and ideals, I experience presence, and that's more than enough. Larry > > Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 .....but listening to the mind is very real and important, that is one way to fall into silence, at least for me very primate seeker of truth. it works so well. Patricia --- epston a écrit : In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:15:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, bigwaaba writes: > if i cannot listen to the mind, i will listen to the self! > so, it's done! L.E. Listen to the SELF, not the self, or you will just hear your own voice talking to yourself. And what does the SELF say to you? The SELF will say nothing to you, the SELF is deep total silence. No voice, no messages, Void, Empty, BEING. > -- In Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > >In a message dated 1/2/2006 2:26:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >bigwaaba writes: dear friend, > >> " listening to the mind " > >> > >>You cannot " listen to the mind. " When the mind speaks, you are > the mind. > >>You do not have the mind, the mind has you, is you, until you > realize you > >>are beyond the mind and the mind is in you, part of you, but not > you.. > >> > >>Larry Epston > >>www.epston.com > > > >dear friend, > > > >listening to the mind,to believes (beliefs?) and identifications there are > > many reasons not to love, because love is freedom, total freedom. > >listening to our true Self there is no reason too, just love, love > in action, being happy, making happy, in a living pulsation, a > heartbeat one with existence of this, this, this moment... (This is all just talk, meaning nothing, i.e., rambling garble!) L.E: Love doesn't exist in the SELF, the absolute. Love is a human thing, a relative thing, a conditional thing. You can talk about unconditional love, but it doesn't exist and you will never find it or have it, because it isn't real, it is part of our illusory relative, ordinary life as a person. If that's not enough, too bad for you. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 oh Patricia, i'm a primate! do you think those gorillas are into silence? Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige> wrote: > > ....but listening to the mind is very real and > important, that is one way to fall into silence, at > least for me very primate seeker of truth. it works so > well. > Patricia > --- epston@a... a écrit : > > > > In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:15:36 AM Pacific > Standard Time, > bigwaaba writes: > > > if i cannot listen to the mind, i will listen to the > self! > > so, it's done! > > L.E. Listen to the SELF, not the self, or you will > just hear your own voice > talking to yourself. And what does the SELF say to > you? The SELF will say > nothing to you, the SELF is deep total silence. No > voice, no messages, Void, > Empty, BEING. > > > -- In Nisargadatta , epston@a... > wrote: > > > > > >In a message dated 1/2/2006 2:26:12 AM Pacific > Standard Time, > > >bigwaaba writes: dear friend, > > > >> " listening to the mind " > > >> > > >>You cannot " listen to the mind. " When the mind > speaks, you are > > the mind. > > >>You do not have the mind, the mind has you, is > you, until you > > realize you > > >>are beyond the mind and the mind is in you, part > of you, but not > > you.. > > >> > > >>Larry Epston > > >>www.epston.com > > > > > >dear friend, > > > > > >listening to the mind,to believes (beliefs?) and > identifications there are > > > > many reasons not to love, because love is freedom, > total freedom. > > >listening to our true Self there is no reason too, > just love, love > > in action, being happy, making happy, in a living > pulsation, a > > heartbeat one with existence of this, this, this > moment... > (This is all just talk, meaning nothing, i.e., > rambling garble!) > > L.E: Love doesn't exist in the SELF, the absolute. > Love is a human thing, a > relative thing, a conditional thing. You can talk > about unconditional love, > but it doesn't exist and you will never find it or > have it, because it isn't > real, it is part of our illusory relative, ordinary > life as a person. If that's > not enough, too bad for you. > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 an empty mind is full of being, creative love. beyond the void... Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:15:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, > bigwaaba writes: > > > if i cannot listen to the mind, i will listen to the self! > > so, it's done! > > L.E. Listen to the SELF, not the self, or you will just hear your own voice > talking to yourself. And what does the SELF say to you? The SELF will say > nothing to you, the SELF is deep total silence. No voice, no messages, Void, > Empty, BEING. > > > -- In Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > > >In a message dated 1/2/2006 2:26:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > >bigwaaba writes: dear friend, > > > >> " listening to the mind " > > >> > > >>You cannot " listen to the mind. " When the mind speaks, you are > > the mind. > > >>You do not have the mind, the mind has you, is you, until you > > realize you > > >>are beyond the mind and the mind is in you, part of you, but not > > you.. > > >> > > >>Larry Epston > > >>www.epston.com > > > > > >dear friend, > > > > > >listening to the mind,to believes (beliefs?) and identifications there are > > > > many reasons not to love, because love is freedom, total freedom. > > >listening to our true Self there is no reason too, just love, love > > in action, being happy, making happy, in a living pulsation, a > > heartbeat one with existence of this, this, this moment... > (This is all just talk, meaning nothing, i.e., rambling garble!) > > L.E: Love doesn't exist in the SELF, the absolute. Love is a human thing, a > relative thing, a conditional thing. You can talk about unconditional love, > but it doesn't exist and you will never find it or have it, because it isn't > real, it is part of our illusory relative, ordinary life as a person. If that's > not enough, too bad for you. > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 If you don't have an empty mind and also never had one for a longer time then what use is it talking about one's daydreams and hopes of an empty mind ? Are you aware enough to differ between your hopes and ideals and what is ? Werner Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote: > > an empty mind is full of being, creative love. > > beyond the void... > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:15:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > bigwaaba writes: > > > > > if i cannot listen to the mind, i will listen to the self! > > > so, it's done! > > > > L.E. Listen to the SELF, not the self, or you will just hear your > own voice > > talking to yourself. And what does the SELF say to you? The SELF > will say > > nothing to you, the SELF is deep total silence. No voice, no > messages, Void, > > Empty, BEING. > > > > > -- In Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > > > > >In a message dated 1/2/2006 2:26:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > >bigwaaba writes: dear friend, > > > > > >> " listening to the mind " > > > >> > > > >>You cannot " listen to the mind. " When the mind speaks, you are > > > the mind. > > > >>You do not have the mind, the mind has you, is you, until you > > > realize you > > > >>are beyond the mind and the mind is in you, part of you, but > not > > > you.. > > > >> > > > >>Larry Epston > > > >>www.epston.com > > > > > > > >dear friend, > > > > > > > >listening to the mind,to believes (beliefs?) and > identifications there are > > > > > > many reasons not to love, because love is freedom, total freedom. > > > >listening to our true Self there is no reason too, just love, > love > > > in action, being happy, making happy, in a living pulsation, a > > > heartbeat one with existence of this, this, this moment... > > (This is all just talk, meaning nothing, i.e., rambling garble!) > > > > L.E: Love doesn't exist in the SELF, the absolute. Love is a human > thing, a > > relative thing, a conditional thing. You can talk about > unconditional love, > > but it doesn't exist and you will never find it or have it, because > it isn't > > real, it is part of our illusory relative, ordinary life as a > person. If that's > > not enough, too bad for you. > > > > Larry Epston > > www.epston.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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