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Because I wasn't sure if the word " hutability " exists and I wanted to

use it I googled it, and it does. Here is an excerpt of a googled hit:

 

" It is the strong, aggressive ego that gets hurt, and as long as this

hurtability is there, there is no non-violence... "

 

Interesting, isn't it ?

 

Werner

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

>

> Because I wasn't sure if the word " hutability " exists and I wanted

to

> use it I googled it, and it does. Here is an excerpt of a googled

hit:

>

> " It is the strong, aggressive ego that gets hurt, and as long as

this

> hurtability is there, there is no non-violence... "

>

> Interesting, isn't it ?

>

> Werner

 

That is an interesting remark, indeed. I wonder if it could mean,

possibly, that it is in the very nature of ego to hurt and get hurt?

If so, then the solution would logically be the dissolution of it.

 

" Silver "

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Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-

1069@h...> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Because I wasn't sure if the word " hutability " exists and I

wanted

> to

> > use it I googled it, and it does. Here is an excerpt of a googled

> hit:

> >

> > " It is the strong, aggressive ego that gets hurt, and as long as

> this

> > hurtability is there, there is no non-violence... "

> >

> > Interesting, isn't it ?

> >

> > Werner

>

> That is an interesting remark, indeed. I wonder if it could mean,

> possibly, that it is in the very nature of ego to hurt and get

hurt?

> If so, then the solution would logically be the dissolution of it.

>

> " Silver "

 

Hi Werner and Silver,

 

thank you for your words

 

maybe the " nature of an ego(mind) " is to live in seperations

(ignorance) to (of) him/herSelf.....and so, by this

fact.....in " seperation " to " others " ........

 

because in reality....there are no seperations existing.....an ego-

mind need to move all the time from one " place to other " ....kind

of " running away " all the time from the Self.......

 

and because in reality....nobody and nothing realy " move " .....except

in the limited mind-functions.......this ego-mind don't get any real

inner peace and freedom.......and is attached in a dream-kind of

existence....

 

intelligent ego-minds all the time " invent " endless excuses to don't

advance into the truth of " free and liberated " being of Self

 

ego-minds and violence are connected......

there is never any real reason to " fight " (for) anything.....because

everything is all the times....in perfect harmony......

 

maybe difficult for an ego-mind to " see " this harmony.....because for

some " personal " reason...this ego-mind stepped out of harmony......by

endless concepts and theories and excuses and rituals and ceremonies

and and and....which are only valid.....for some duration of time.....

 

wish a peaceful and respectful fight.....

 

ever if there are no others.....and if not......would be interesting

to know " why " they appear as " seperated " ......

 

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-

> 1069@h...> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Because I wasn't sure if the word " hutability " exists and I

> wanted

> > to

> > > use it I googled it, and it does. Here is an excerpt of a

googled

> > hit:

> > >

> > > " It is the strong, aggressive ego that gets hurt, and as long

as

> > this

> > > hurtability is there, there is no non-violence... "

> > >

> > > Interesting, isn't it ?

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > That is an interesting remark, indeed. I wonder if it could

mean,

> > possibly, that it is in the very nature of ego to hurt and get

> hurt?

> > If so, then the solution would logically be the dissolution of it.

> >

> > " Silver "

>

> Hi Werner and Silver,

>

> thank you for your words

>

> maybe the " nature of an ego(mind) " is to live in seperations

> (ignorance) to (of) him/herSelf.....and so, by this

> fact.....in " seperation " to " others " ........

>

> because in reality....there are no seperations existing.....an ego-

> mind need to move all the time from one " place to other " ....kind

> of " running away " all the time from the Self.......

>

> and because in reality....nobody and nothing

realy " move " .....except

> in the limited mind-functions.......this ego-mind don't get any

real

> inner peace and freedom.......and is attached in a dream-kind of

> existence....

>

> intelligent ego-minds all the time " invent " endless excuses to

don't

> advance into the truth of " free and liberated " being of Self

>

> ego-minds and violence are connected......

> there is never any real reason to " fight " (for)

anything.....because

> everything is all the times....in perfect harmony......

>

> maybe difficult for an ego-mind to " see " this harmony.....because

for

> some " personal " reason...this ego-mind stepped out of

harmony......by

> endless concepts and theories and excuses and rituals and

ceremonies

> and and and....which are only valid.....for some duration of

time.....

>

> wish a peaceful and respectful fight.....

>

> ever if there are no others.....and if not......would be

interesting

> to know " why " they appear as " seperated " ......

>

>

> Marc

 

 

You have raised a very important point here, Marc. I think you said

it best with the observation that " ego-minds and violence are

connected. " As ego separates itself from Self, it produces violence

in a sense. Like ripping and shredding. Good observation.

 

" Silver "

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In a message dated 1/4/2006 1:55:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

" s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069

Re: Hurtability

 

Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

>

> Because I wasn't sure if the word " hutability " exists and I wanted

to

> use it I googled it, and it does. Here is an excerpt of a googled

hit:

>

> " It is the strong, aggressive ego that gets hurt, and as long as

this

> hurtability is there, there is no non-violence... "

>

> Interesting, isn't it ?

>

> Werner

 

That is an interesting remark, indeed. I wonder if it could mean,

possibly, that it is in the very nature of ego to hurt and get hurt?

If so, then the solution would logically be the dissolution of it.

 

" Silver "

 

 

 

 

The irony may be that ego, in particular an aggressive on, cares very little

for others and has no direct motivation to cause hurt. It's stance is

entirely self protective and defense or offense is always designed to keep

oneself

ignorant of the truth. The other is just 'collateral damage'.

 

Phil

 

 

 

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