The Void is Void, Emptyness

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In a message dated 1/3/2006 8:25:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

epston

Re: Phil: Listen! The Void is Void, Emptyness

 

In a message dated 1/3/2006 4:15:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

> >Phil: an empty mind is full of being, creative love.beyond the void...

> >

> L.E: There is nothing beyond the void, or rather, the void is void,

that's

>

> why it reffered to as void. You are just using words futiley, or in vain,

> or poetically.

>

> Larry

>

> Phil: The void isn't really a void. It only looks that way from the

> perspective of

> an ego full of itself. Fullness/void; the last dualistic perception that

> will

> still seem to have any meaning.

>

 

L.E: Again, an empty mind is an empty mind, there is nothing in it and

harmonizes with the Absolute, Void, nothingness of substance. The word void

is a

futile attempt to point to something beyond duality. Obviously in your mind

that has not occurred.

If void can be seen as the same as fullness, then it has nothing to do with

an ego, full of itself. If fullness is seen as opposite to void, it would

refer to ordinary existence, the world of so-called illusion, not the ego.

To

talk about it that way is very odd.

And there is no place for love in an empty mind. Love is something that

concerns mostly humans and perhaps some other animals like elephants,

monkeys and

perhaps dolphins, and therefore exists in the ordinary world, not beyond the

mind, or in the Absolute or Void, or Infinite Consciousness etc. This is a

very strange discussion.

 

 

 

Phil: Larry, Listen! Again, you have attributed comments to me that are not

mine. I didn't say " an empty mind is full of being, creative love. Beyond

the void.... " . I don't know who did.

 

I also said nothing that implies the void is the same as fullness. I did say

that fullness/void is a dualistic perception, and you saw fit to disagree

with that and then basically repeat it.

 

So what is ego if not part of the illusion? Do you think ego is part of

Reality? It's a set of thoughts in an illusory mind.

 

You then go back to talking about love, apparently referring again to the

comment that I didn't write.

 

One thing I agree with, this is a very strange discussion. You remind me a

bit of our old friend Whitehorse, with whom I stopped conversing because he

simply couldn't listen to anyone but himself. He, too, complained that we didn't

love each other enough, while responding with arrogance, rudeness and

belligerence.

 

I believe we've come to that " end " part of the conversation we talked about.

I wish you well, my friend.

 

Phil