Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:35:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: It is in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression this is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, Being you and me. It's better this way. L.E. It's> in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression this > is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, Being, everything, you and me. > > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 - epston Nisargadatta Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:08 PM Re: I Am the Absolute Reality In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:35:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, silver-1069 writes: It is in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression this is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, Being you and me. It's better this way. L.E. It's> in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression this > is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, Being, everything, you and me. > > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com ever so perfectly i am formed in this: blood bone sinew well placed befitting ourselves, OneSelf one thin red line the skin of our skin, Beloved Lover Cosmic Dancer This Is Now Dancing I Am Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:35:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069@h... writes: > > It is in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression this > is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, Being > you and me. Just for the record, I did NOT write the above. You did. Be careful how you arrange you posts. Here's what I (silver-1069@h...) say: One can interpret everyday events as an expression of the divine or not. It appears to me that the former conceptual interpretation seems the more difficult one to accept. To ascribe divinity to the expressions of an Absolute Reality compares to the flawed view of a dual universe. If Absolute Reality expresses both love and evil in, through and/or AS humanity, then It IS (pardon my reversion to Aristotelianism here) f**ked, indeed! The insanity of humanity's injustices to humanity could just as well betray the existence of an evil demon-like maniacal Lord, lording it over the masses and sadistically controlling them. Alice in Wonderland, for sure! " Silver " > > > > It's better this way. > > L.E. > > It's> in the everyday > you can find the divine, > whose expression this > is. > Hard to grasp, > and hard to see, > I am the absolute reality, > Being, everything, > you and me. > > > > > > Larry Epston > > www.epston.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: I Am the Absolute Reality Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:35:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, > silver-1069@h... writes: > > It is in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression this > is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, Being > you and me. Just for the record, I did NOT write the above. You did. Be careful how you arrange you posts. Here's what I (silver-1069@h...) say: One can interpret everyday events as an expression of the divine or not. It appears to me that the former conceptual interpretation seems the more difficult one to accept. To ascribe divinity to the expressions of an Absolute Reality compares to the flawed view of a dual universe. If Absolute Reality expresses both love and evil in, through and/or AS humanity, then It IS (pardon my reversion to Aristotelianism here) f**ked, indeed! The insanity of humanity's injustices to humanity could just as well betray the existence of an evil demon-like maniacal Lord, lording it over the masses and sadistically controlling them. Alice in Wonderland, for sure! " Silver " I'd like to know what curious George has to say about it. Hehe. Well, lets add yet another view. If you were to fall asleep right now and dream a terrible dream, in your fear, who would you blame for that? Once you awaken, who would you blame for the dream? As the cat might say, God is quite mad or He would not be here. But who is there to call God mad? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: [Nisargadatta I Am the Absolute Reality I perceive injustice, cruelty and insanity in the world but did I sentence an innocent man to twenty five years in prison? Did I skin a cat alive and hang it from a tree? Did I inject myself with a lethal dose of heroin? If, as you say, these express my divinity as part of who I AM, then I should do the world a favour and shoot myself. " Silver " ::::: In my best Rod Serling voice ::::: Imagine if you will, a world of nothing but saints. Some of these are perfect saints, some not so perfect. We watch the acts of these not so perfect saints on the nightly news and we shake our heads and wring our hands and cry to the heavens, " Oh God, how can such unspeakable acts continue? How can such evil be a part of what you are? " Inevitably, you round up the worst of the not so perfect saints as they spit on the sidewalk and step out into traffic before the light changes, and you put them in prison for the good of society.........And you shake your head and wring your hands. " Dualities are funny things. Are you my relative? " asks the mad hatter. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069@h...> > Re: I Am the Absolute Reality > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2006 3:35:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > silver-1069@h... writes: > > > > It is in the everyday you can find the divine, whose expression > this > > is. Hard to grasp, and hard to see, I am the absolute reality, > Being > > you and me. > > Just for the record, I did NOT write the above. You did. Be careful > how you arrange you posts. > > Here's what I (silver-1069@h...) say: > > One can interpret everyday events as an expression of the divine or > not. It appears to me that the former conceptual interpretation > seems the more difficult one to accept. > > To ascribe divinity to the expressions of an Absolute Reality > compares to the flawed view of a dual universe. If Absolute Reality > expresses both love and evil in, through and/or AS humanity, then It > IS (pardon my reversion to Aristotelianism here) f**ked, indeed! > > The insanity of humanity's injustices to humanity could just as well > betray the existence of an evil demon-like maniacal Lord, lording it > over the masses and sadistically controlling them. > > Alice in Wonderland, for sure! > > " Silver " > > > > > I'd like to know what curious George has to say about it. Hehe. > > Well, lets add yet another view. If you were to fall asleep right now and > dream a terrible dream, in your fear, who would you blame for that? Once you > awaken, who would you blame for the dream? > > As the cat might say, God is quite mad or He would not be here. But who is > there to call God mad? > > Phil One sunny day, curious George wanders into an asylum for the certifiably insane and meets a woman who introduces herself to him as 'Kitty.' Rubbing up to the curious little monkey, she purrs, " God is quite mad, or He would not be here. " George looks at all the people around him and wonders, " Which one? They all look pretty happy to me. Can I play pretend, too? " " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069@h...> > Re: [Nisargadatta I Am the Absolute Reality > > > > I perceive injustice, cruelty and insanity in the world but did I > sentence an innocent man to twenty five years in prison? Did I skin > a cat alive and hang it from a tree? Did I inject myself with a > lethal dose of heroin? If, as you say, these express my divinity as > part of who I AM, then I should do the world a favour and shoot > myself. > > " Silver " > > > ::::: In my best Rod Serling voice ::::: > > Imagine if you will, a world of nothing but saints. Some of these are > perfect saints, some not so perfect. We watch the acts of these not so perfect > saints on the nightly news and we shake our heads and wring our hands and cry to > the heavens, " Oh God, how can such unspeakable acts continue? How can such > evil be a part of what you are? " > > Inevitably, you round up the worst of the not so perfect saints as they spit > on the sidewalk and step out into traffic before the light changes, and you > put them in prison for the good of society.........And you shake your head and > wring your hands. > > " Dualities are funny things. Are you my relative? " asks the mad hatter. > > Phil Yes, that seems right. Egos relate to each other on a dualistic level. Egos behave like they alwas have: bi-polarily. Eliminate egohood and this Big Illusion will simply vanish. What will remain? I draw a complete blank on this point. And I think the blank will remain. Who the hell Am I? " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 In a message dated 1/5/2006 3:03:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 Re: I Am the Absolute Reality Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:09:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069@h...> > Re: [Nisargadatta I Am the Absolute Reality > > > > I perceive injustice, cruelty and insanity in the world but did I > sentence an innocent man to twenty five years in prison? Did I skin > a cat alive and hang it from a tree? Did I inject myself with a > lethal dose of heroin? If, as you say, these express my divinity as > part of who I AM, then I should do the world a favour and shoot > myself. > > " Silver " > > > ::::: In my best Rod Serling voice ::::: > > Imagine if you will, a world of nothing but saints. Some of these are > perfect saints, some not so perfect. We watch the acts of these not so perfect > saints on the nightly news and we shake our heads and wring our hands and cry to > the heavens, " Oh God, how can such unspeakable acts continue? How can such > evil be a part of what you are? " > > Inevitably, you round up the worst of the not so perfect saints as they spit > on the sidewalk and step out into traffic before the light changes, and you > put them in prison for the good of society.........And you shake your head and > wring your hands. > > " Dualities are funny things. Are you my relative? " asks the mad hatter. > > Phil Yes, that seems right. Egos relate to each other on a dualistic level. Egos behave like they alwas have: bi-polarily. Eliminate egohood and this Big Illusion will simply vanish. What will remain? I draw a complete blank on this point. And I think the blank will remain. Who the hell Am I? " Silver " Yeah, and of course that question leads to the inevitable question, 'Who am I not?', and the duality creation continues. Perception is a human thang. The mind actually creates perception by defining, which is a continuous process of comparison of one thing against another. In this way, all dualities are creations of mind only. You're right, eliminate the process of comparison and identification, and the illusion vanishes because it was never more than a mind created perception to begin with. Creative consciousness creates what it perceives. Creation and perception are the same. If perception ceases, the illusion is seen for what it is; nothing more than our thought about it. How many of us are willing to notice this? Since our entire illusion is based on thought, it's impossible to imagine a Reality in which there are no thoughts, and yet this is the only Reality there is. One only needs thought to perceive a universe. No thought is required to know one IS the universe. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Phil, the Universe ? I always believed you are Donald Duck. And now I have to read you are the Universe. What a gigantic step ! Werner Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/5/2006 3:03:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > One only needs thought to perceive a universe. No thought is required to know one IS the universe. > > Phil > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Werner, peace is the source of endless fantasies...... but this does not mean that " we are " this fantasies.... Marc > Phil, the Universe ? > > I always believed you are Donald Duck. And now I have to read you are > the Universe. > > What a gigantic step ! > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 1/5/2006 3:03:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > One only needs thought to perceive a universe. No thought is > required to know one IS the universe. > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Maybe there's only three degrees of separation between Donald Duck and the universe. PhilQuaaak! In a message dated 1/6/2006 4:25:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr Re: I Am the Absolute Reality Phil, the Universe ? I always believed you are Donald Duck. And now I have to read you are the Universe. What a gigantic step ! Werner Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/5/2006 3:03:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > One only needs thought to perceive a universe. No thought is required to know one IS the universe. > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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