Evil And Its Silver Lining

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On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Nisargadatta wrote:

 

> I perceive injustice, cruelty and insanity in the world but did I

> sentence an innocent man to twenty five years in prison? Did I skin

> a cat alive and hang it from a tree? Did I inject myself with a

> lethal dose of heroin? If, as you say, these express my divinity as

> part of who I AM, then I should do the world a favour and shoot

> myself.

>

> " Silver "

>

>

 

P: Yes, if You created this world, 'you' deserve to be shot.

But no one created it, and no one endures it. It just

happened, it still just happens. Evil is a limited point of

view created by the fact that pain and suffering are felt,

and that we are both programmed to die, and to fear

death. Bummer, dude! Was the Marquis De Sade the

creator of this mess. Not really! Death was a way to

expedite evolution via reproduction and mutations

at a time when self consciousness didn't exist. Pain

was a way to protect life long enough to reproduce

at a time when intelligence wasn't available. No one

designed these schemes, there were others as well,

but death and pain worked best.

 

Now that intelligence has given us the key to the

human gnome, biology engineering, and artificial

intelligence, it won't be long till we get rid of pain

and death. A self conscious machine won't have

any notion of evil since it won't suffer, or feel pain,

or die because its memories and programming

could be uploaded to a new machine.

 

Just a thought.

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote:

>

>

> On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:09 AM, Nisargadatta wrote:

>

> > I perceive injustice, cruelty and insanity in the world but did I

> > sentence an innocent man to twenty five years in prison? Did I

skin

> > a cat alive and hang it from a tree? Did I inject myself with a

> > lethal dose of heroin? If, as you say, these express my divinity

as

> > part of who I AM, then I should do the world a favour and shoot

> > myself.

> >

> > " Silver "

> >

> >

>

P: Yes, if You created this world, 'you' deserve to be shot. But no

one created it, and no one endures it. It just happened, it still

just happens.

 

***** " Silver " : Niz taught that the world arises along with

consciousness. " Consciousness arising, the world arises. " he said.

('I Am That'; p.254) All takes place AS consciousness. I find it

interesting that he said, " When you consider the wisdom and the

beauty of the world, you call it God. " (p.254) My Roman Catholic

background induces me to attribute the ignorance and ugliness I see

in the world to God's antithesis. I divide the world into two: Good

and Evil and their respective Overlords. While I see the silliness

of this perspective, I can't seem to shake it. Hence, my ceaseless

and senseless questioning. When someone makes the remark that I am

everything happening in the world - either Good or Evil - and then

finishes by concluding that the world does not really exist, my mind

does a flip-flop. Lol. And yet, I can understand what it means and

consent to it! Strange. Very strange.

 

P: Evil is a limited point of view created by the fact that pain and

suffering are felt, and that we are both programmed to die, and to

fear death. Bummer, dude! Was the Marquis De Sade the creator of this

mess. Not really!

 

***** " Silver " : Lol. Not entirely, no. Yet, if we accept the idea

that nobody can do anything without the cooperation of the entire

Universe, it would mean that we all - alive today or not - share

responsibility for the world's state and fate.

 

P: Death was a way to expedite evolution via reproduction and

mutations at a time when self consciousness didn't exist. Pain was a

way to protect life long enough to reproduce at a time when

intelligence wasn't available. No one designed these schemes, there

were others as well, but death and pain worked best.

 

Now that intelligence has given us the key to the human gnome,

biology engineering, and artificial intelligence, it won't be long

till we get rid of pain and death. A self conscious machine won't have

any notion of evil since it won't suffer, or feel pain,

or die because its memories and programming could be uploaded to a

new machine.

 

Just a thought.

 

***** " Silver " : Ha! Humankind's perennial hope in a future Utopia.

Don't forget about the Kryptonite. Even Superman died.

 

" Silver "