Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 In a message dated 1/6/2006 8:40:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, gdtige writes: > Not intersted about chretien goodness yet very alert > about the world around, and very involved in what I > think might be the only remedie. > Patricia > L.E: (Christian) What do you think might be the only remedy? And as you sit there and think, the world burns, the hungry are starving and thousands are being killed by war every minute. Are you done thinking yet? Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Thinking yes, Larry, but not just thinking, also bleeding because aware of how corrupted and false it is all. I am walking away, because this isn`t my combat, but still I fight as much as I possibly can, what is false and corrupted in me and around, my weapons are different than the one of reaction. My 15 years old has taught me how one can change a situation with non-resistance and active longing. And that takes a kind of bleeding and letting go in awareness. Complete awareness of the situation is so important. Patricia In a message dated 1/6/2006 8:40:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, gdtige writes: > Not intersted about chretien goodness yet very alert > about the world around, and very involved in what I > think might be the only remedie. > Patricia > L.E: (Christian) What do you think might be the only remedy? And as you sit there and think, the world burns, the hungry are starving and thousands are being killed by war every minute. Are you done thinking yet? Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 In a message dated 1/6/2006 9:07:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: OConnor Patricia <gdtige Re: JPatricia-Death Is Now Thinking yes, Larry, but not just thinking, also bleeding because aware of how corrupted and false it is all. I am walking away, because this isn`t my combat, but still I fight as much as I possibly can, what is false and corrupted in me and around, my weapons are different than the one of reaction. My 15 years old has taught me how one can change a situation with non-resistance and active longing. And that takes a kind of bleeding and letting go in awareness. Complete awareness of the situation is so important. Patricia Your 15 year old is a wise teacher. I'm glad this makes at least as much sense to you as Larry's advice. Consider that the world you experience is but a dream of consciousness and the person that you identify with is but a dream character. How does a dream character change the dream from within the dream? It cannot be done any more than it can in your nightly dreams. Just when you finally escape the monster that chases you, and you come to believe that you have accomplished something, another monster pokes his head into your hiding place and the chase is on again. Why does this sort of thing happen in our nightly dreams? Because escaping the monster did nothing to change the dynamics of the dreamer who's digestive system is still causing pain from the pepperoni pizza the night before. Life dreams are only changed at the level of consciousness (the dreamer), and this has nothing to do with anything that is mechanically done within the dream. That which perceives in you is the dreamer. Change what is perceived and you change the dream. Perceive perfection and that is what will be dreamed. Perceive that all things are acceptable and you dream a dream of acceptance. Perceive joy and peace in the world and this will be your dream. This is the process of Self realization because you must know yourself to be these things before you will perceive them in the world. Fight with your dream and your dream will be a battlefield. The dream is changed by being rather than by doing. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/6/2006 9:07:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > OConnor Patricia <gdtige> > Re: JPatricia-Death Is Now > > > Thinking yes, Larry, but not just thinking, also > bleeding because aware of how corrupted and false it > is all. I am walking away, because this isn`t my > combat, but still I fight as much as I possibly can, > what is false and corrupted in me and around, my > weapons are different than the one of reaction. > My 15 years old has taught me how one can change a > situation with non-resistance and active longing. And > that takes a kind of bleeding and letting go in > awareness. Complete awareness of the situation is so > important. > Patricia > > > > Your 15 year old is a wise teacher. I'm glad this makes at least as much > sense to you as Larry's advice. Consider that the world you experience is but a > dream of consciousness and the person that you identify with is but a dream > character. How does a dream character change the dream from within the dream? > It cannot be done any more than it can in your nightly dreams. Just when you > finally escape the monster that chases you, and you come to believe that you > have accomplished something, another monster pokes his head into your hiding > place and the chase is on again. Why does this sort of thing happen in our > nightly dreams? Because escaping the monster did nothing to change the dynamics > of the dreamer who's digestive system is still causing pain from the > pepperoni pizza the night before. > > Life dreams are only changed at the level of consciousness (the dreamer), > and this has nothing to do with anything that is mechanically done within the > dream. That which perceives in you is the dreamer. Change what is perceived and > you change the dream. Perceive perfection and that is what will be dreamed. > Perceive that all things are acceptable and you dream a dream of acceptance. > Perceive joy and peace in the world and this will be your dream. This is the > process of Self realization because you must know yourself to be these things > before you will perceive them in the world. Fight with your dream and your > dream will be a battlefield. > > The dream is changed by being rather than by doing. > > Phil Surrender not to the dream of doing but, rather, surrender to BEING. " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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