Phil: The State of Being

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In a message dated 1/6/2006 12:30:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB

writes:

 

> This state of being is not fully known here but has been experienced (Which

> is not the

> same as knowing) and sensed well enough to know what it is not.

>

> ________

 

The state of Being is available and fully accessible. It is quiet, empty

and awareness itself. Sit quietly until the thinking stops, and there it is,

there you are, IT IS.

It is so easy, so present, so obvious, yet most refuse to see it or know it.

It is who you are, directly, obviously, not hidden obscure or distant.

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com

 

 

 

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In a message dated 1/6/2006 9:07:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

epston

Re: Phil: The State of Being

 

In a message dated 1/6/2006 12:30:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,

ADHHUB

writes:

 

> This state of being is not fully known here but has been experienced

(Which

> is not the

> same as knowing) and sensed well enough to know what it is not.

>

> ________

 

The state of Being is available and fully accessible. It is quiet, empty

and awareness itself. Sit quietly until the thinking stops, and there it

is,

there you are, IT IS.

It is so easy, so present, so obvious, yet most refuse to see it or know it.

 

It is who you are, directly, obviously, not hidden obscure or distant.

 

Larry Epston

 

 

 

 

What I meant is that the state of being to which you refer is an experience

rather than a knowing. Some here, including yourself, may have been deluded

into thinking they are the same and that such an experience places them in a

position of knowing something that others do not. An experience of bliss or

divine love or whatever flavor it may be, presupposes an experience and an

experiencer. The experiencer is ego. The experience is an experience that ego

is

having. What has this to do with BEING love, joy or peace? Nothing at all. You

must keep going.

 

I've had such experiences, the difference being that I don't pretend this

has anything to do with knowing myself to be these 'things'. If you knew

yourself to be love, you would not feel the need to be arrogant. If you knew

yourself to be peace, you would not feel the need for such meaningless drama. If

you knew yourself to be joy, you would not find yourself enraged. Do you have

any idea what I'm talking about? Are you listening to anything but your own

voice?

 

I'm glad for your experiences, Larry. Most of us who are not new to the

spiritual path have shared your experiences and do not need to be taught them.

Now, perhaps it's time to swallow the bitter pill of humility and keep going.

There is ego to be dissolved into the nothingness that it is, and much work to

be done in this regard.

 

Phil