Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 We have an experience, or realization, and we attach to it a label which we pick out of our cultural religious label bag. If we are Buddhists, we call it 'Buddha Nature.' If we are Christians, we call it union with God. Each religion has it own labels. Then, using our best creative verbal effort we attempt to describe such perception to others. These efforts are just a pointing in the dark. What have we really discovered that is of significance to others? A discovery can only be called such if: 1) The thing, or phenomena found can accurately be identified. 2) An infallible way to get to it, or reproduce the X just discovered can be provided. Under the above criteria it is clear that the Vikings did not discovered America, they, at best were the first Europeans to land on it. So we are all spiritual Vikings, landing on America, but unable to communicate to others the nature of, or the way to this promised land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4@e...> wrote: > > We have an experience, or realization, and we attach to it a > label which we pick out of our cultural religious label bag. If we > are Buddhists, we call it 'Buddha Nature.' If we are Christians, > we call it union with God. Each religion has it own labels. Then, > using our best creative verbal effort we attempt to describe > such perception to others. These efforts are just a pointing in the > dark. What have we really discovered that is of significance > to others? > > A discovery can only be called such if: > > 1) The thing, or phenomena found can > accurately be identified. > > 2) An infallible way to get to it, or reproduce > the X just discovered can be provided. > > Under the above criteria it is clear that the Vikings > did not discovered America, they, at best were > the first Europeans to land on it. > > So we are all spiritual Vikings, landing on America, > but unable to communicate to others the nature of, > or the way to this promised land. > the reason for this unability is that this Land is unique for everyone and the way to it too, is unique. not only, this Land is not a dead soil, it is pulsating with life, changing...when we meet, something is shifted, a new element comes into play...a new landscape begin to appear... communication happens, even if it doesn't seem so to closed ego- centered mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 > We have an experience, or realization, and we attach to it a > label which we pick out of our cultural religious label bag. If we > are Buddhists, we call it 'Buddha Nature.' If we are Christians, > we call it union with God. Each religion has it own labels. Then, > using our best creative verbal effort we attempt to describe > such perception to others. These efforts are just a pointing in the > dark. What have we really discovered that is of significance > to others? > > A discovery can only be called such if: > > 1) The thing, or phenomena found can > accurately be identified. > > 2) An infallible way to get to it, or reproduce > the X just discovered can be provided. > > Under the above criteria it is clear that the Vikings > did not discovered America, they, at best were > the first Europeans to land on it. > > So we are all spiritual Vikings, landing on America, > but unable to communicate to others the nature of, > or the way to this promised land. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> What is said here is true in terms of any objective basis. But there is no objective basis. That's the whole point, in a way. That a " turning in the sea of consciousness " has turned everything on its head. The only reality is that which mistakenly sought something solid, something real. The message brings to mind Buddha's realization that the myriad beings are all unreal and yet, also, his having compassion for the myriad beings and so embarking on a lifetime of teaching. And the writer of the message is entwined in a similar paradox. For if he really believes that communication to others the nature of, or the way to, is impossible, why has he written the message? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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