Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Then go hang out with the monkeys jerk-face, and leave us terrible humans alone.. Stupid, stupid! Go find some Hindus to curse with your un-holy message! Larry Epston www.epston.com \In a message dated 1/8/2006 8:47:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > You want to use the power of the Lord for yourself and for your family > members. This is the reason why the grace and power of the Lord are not flowing > though you. When you are detached from yourself and from your family, then > only the full grace and the full power of the Lord flows though you. Hanuman was > such example and He never gets death or any illness. He became the strongest > and also attained the post of Creator. The grace and power of the Lord flew > through Him completely. > > posted by: His servant > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > www.universal-spirituality.org > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Jesus was rightly crucified because he was a blasphemer, an insult to god, a false voice. He has not returned and will never return because he was a liar just as you and your master are liars, offering promises and false hopes to those who suffer in ignorance. You increase their ignorance. It is the servant, the priest and his false gods that have enslaved humans and still do as you attempt the same thing. Larry Epston www.epston.com In a message dated 1/8/2006 10:08:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > Lord in human form will be rejected because of jealousy and egoism. These > two layers cover both the eyes. Spiritual effort is the eye-operation so that > these layers will be removed. > > the climax of this egoism and jealosy is the main reason for the brutal > crucification of Lord Jesus. > > generations have passed and people claim even as educated. but sofar the > egoism and jealousy of human beings were never crucified. ofcourse there is > little hope. > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > surya > www.universal-spirituality.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Lord in human form will be rejected because of jealousy and egoism. These two layers cover both the eyes. Spiritual effort is the eye-operation so that these layers will be removed. the climax of this egoism and jealosy is the main reason for the brutal crucification of Lord Jesus. generations have passed and people claim even as educated. but sofar the egoism and jealousy of human beings were never crucified. ofcourse there is little hope. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya www.universal-spirituality.org epston wrote: Then go hang out with the monkeys jerk-face, and leave us terrible humans alone..Stupid, stupid! Go find some Hindus to curse with your un-holy message! Larry Epston www.epston.com SURYA surya www.universal-spirituality.org Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 On namah Shivaya! Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > Jesus was rightly crucified because he was a blasphemer, an insult to god, a > false voice. He has not returned and will never return because he was a liar > just as you and your master are liars, offering promises and false hopes to > those who suffer in ignorance. You increase their ignorance. It is the > servant, the priest and his false gods that have enslaved humans and still do as you > attempt the same thing. > > Larry Epston > www.epston.com > > In a message dated 1/8/2006 10:08:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dattapr2000 writes: > > > Lord in human form will be rejected because of jealousy and egoism. These > > two layers cover both the eyes. Spiritual effort is the eye- operation so that > > these layers will be removed. > > > > the climax of this egoism and jealosy is the main reason for the brutal > > crucification of Lord Jesus. > > > > generations have passed and people claim even as educated. but sofar the > > egoism and jealousy of human beings were never crucified. ofcourse there is > > little hope. > > > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > > surya > > www.universal-spirituality.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 my dear friend I appreciate you in one angle. You went through the post completely. It looks to me that you neither believe Krishna nor Jesus. Probably you believe in yourself only. But don't think others are fools and you are only great, there is equal probability for you to falter because we are all human beings only. When many no. of people are following Krishna & Jesus as God, do you mean to say that not even a single intelligent human being is there in that group? Instead of calling all of them wrong, why don't you analyse yourself and find out where you are deviating from them? If you find that point the solution is in front of you. If you discard the divine knowledge preached by both of them and depend on yourself only it is near impossible for you to progress in spirituality until and unless you are the creator, in which case you don't require any spiritual effort. I hope you will view this positively. --------------- When Lord comes in Human form His main concentration in the preaching will be where people are lacking the knowledge. If one is strong in Mathematics, what is the use of teaching him mathematics? Teach the subject where he is weak. Sofar mostly people never identified the Lord (Ofcourse other than a handful) when He came in human form like Jesus, Krishna, Mohammed, Buddha... The reason being not aware of the knowledge required for identifying Him in addition to Jealousy and ego. Now Shri Datta swami gave many discourses in this direction to give complete knowledge. For the first time, He included science also into religions and explaining divine knowledge scientifically to bring atheists also into the main stream of believers of Lord. After identifying, next step is to please the Lord (because if I see president of my country will I get any benefit from him other than momentary happiness?) Divine Knowledge should be preached at the rate at which people can digest. This is not for show. I may have a bagful of fruits, but i cannot eat them in one go. That is why a constant effort in the direction of goal is important instead of running in the opposite direction of goal. Mostly people love Lord for their desires to be fulfilled. If something goes wrong or if things are out of control then we rush to lord and start prayers etc. This devotion is like a prostitute loving her customer. If one really loves Lord without any desire, then only Lord will be pleased. When a beggar approaches us, we generally offer him whatever is least useful to us. But, when a relative comes to our house, we provide him with good food, facilities and even ask him to stay for some more time. Why is the difference in our approach? Beggar comes to us for what we give. He is not having any love to us. Whereas a relative has not come for our food and facilities, he has come to see us. This shows the love. So, our approach to Lord should be with love and affection as relative but not like beggar, who approaches us only for satisfying the desires. We should not worship lord only to satisfy our desire. Prayers by words, meditation by mind and intelligence in spiritual discussions form a preliminary level of worship. The devotee should search for a Satguru or Lord in human form (like Jesus, Krishna and Prophet Mohammed) to learn the divine knowledge. After gaining the divine knowledge from the Lord in human form, at His directive only he should participate in His service in the mission. His mission is to uplift the human beings by preaching the divine knowledge. Service consists of donating money and physically participating in His mission of divine knowledge propagation. Such real service is the only proof of our real love towards Lord. We are serving our family by spending hard earned money for them and also serving physically. Where as when we come to Lord, we express our love by prayers, meditation and spiritual discussions only, which are given freely by Lord to everybody. Hence God is not even comparable to family members but in prayers we project Him on top. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami surya www.universal-spirituality.org epston wrote: Jesus was rightly crucified because he was a blasphemer, an insult to god, a false voice. He has not returned and will never return because he was a liar just as you and your master are liars, offering promises and false hopes to those who suffer in ignorance. You increase their ignorance. It is the servant, the priest and his false gods that have enslaved humans and still do as you attempt the same thing. Larry Epston www.epston.com In a message dated 1/8/2006 10:08:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, dattapr2000 writes: > Lord in human form will be rejected because of jealousy and egoism. These > two layers cover both the eyes. Spiritual effort is the eye-operation so that > these layers will be removed. > > the climax of this egoism and jealosy is the main reason for the brutal > crucification of Lord Jesus. > > generations have passed and people claim even as educated. but sofar the > egoism and jealousy of human beings were never crucified. ofcourse there is > little hope. > > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami > surya > www.universal-spirituality.org Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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