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> What do you mean by 'seeking', Bill?

>

> Kind of seeking [searching for spiritual

> answers] you seem to describe below

> is naturally absent in many individuals!

 

Wondering about the meaning of things, about

what life is about, being mystified by life.

I mean that in the context of *oneself*,

not in the context of physics, say.

 

As long as there is such wondering there is

a sense of incompletelness.

 

Such wondering dissolves when there is not

a sense of an " existential self " in the

face of a vast cosmos.

 

> It is nothing something that you [or I] have

> to do on purpose.

>

> It doesn't happen as 'pre' reading exercise,

> it mostly happens after reading and it is mostly

> like 'visiting' a 'similar' place again!

>

> Or like tasting a new 'unknown' wine and

> instantly finding its taste somewhat similar

> to... one you had in Italy!

>

That's fine. And I understand that.

But I am saying that a sense of personality

as something that is " mine " is not signficicant

from my viewpoint.

 

> I have no problem with... *mine*!

>

> *mine* too is... Mine!

>

> but, it is NOT the Only Thing!

>

> and, it is Not the Most Important Thing!

 

Apparently you have a sense of your personality

as yours.

 

Do you also have a sense of yourself as an

existential entity in the face of a vast

cosmos?

 

Do you have a sense of inner/outer?

 

Do you have personal feelings that are *yours*?

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illieusion@h...>

wrote:

>

> > What do you mean by 'seeking', Bill?

> >

> > Kind of seeking [searching for spiritual

> > answers] you seem to describe below

> > is naturally absent in many individuals!

>

> Wondering about the meaning of things, about

> what life is about, being mystified by life.

> I mean that in the context of *oneself*,

> not in the context of physics, say.

>

> As long as there is such wondering there is

> a sense of incompletelness.

>

> Such wondering dissolves when there is not

> a sense of an " existential self " in the

> face of a vast cosmos.

 

 

Ok.

 

>

> > It is nothing something that you [or I] have

> > to do on purpose.

> >

> > It doesn't happen as 'pre' reading exercise,

> > it mostly happens after reading and it is mostly

> > like 'visiting' a 'similar' place again!

> >

> > Or like tasting a new 'unknown' wine and

> > instantly finding its taste somewhat similar

> > to... one you had in Italy!

> >

> That's fine. And I understand that.

> But I am saying that a sense of personality

> as something that is " mine " is not signficicant

> from my viewpoint.

 

I am not implying that it is.

 

>

> > I have no problem with... *mine*!

> >

> > *mine* too is... Mine!

> >

> > but, it is NOT the Only Thing!

> >

> > and, it is Not the Most Important Thing!

>

> Apparently you have a sense of your personality

> as yours.

 

Everything that I have is... mine!

 

Including my perception of Bill's personality

whenever that happens!

 

>

> Do you also have a sense of yourself as an

> existential entity in the face of a vast

> cosmos?

 

I am Not [Directly] Aware of any Vast

Cosmos!

 

I AM...

 

and, I don't see it as... vast or small!

 

It is the Only thing that I Am [Directly]

Aware Of!

 

Of course... I Exist!

 

But... I don't think of I AM... as an 'entity'!

 

An entity does exist... but, it is not really me!

 

>

> Do you have a sense of inner/outer?

 

Not absolutely.

 

It only makes sense with a context.

 

In the context of a body...

I can differentiate between what is

happening to this body and what is

not.

 

 

At the deeper level... there is No feeling

of Body and, thus there is neither inner

nor outer.

 

 

 

>

> Do you have personal feelings that are *yours*?

 

How could they be!

 

If they were... I would have only

*chosen* the ones that I liked!

 

 

>

> Bill

>

 

Regards,

ac.

 

PS: Hi Bill, I hope this discussion with you is fine.

I am enjoying it and I hope I am not creating

any problem. Please let me know if I am.

 

It is not my intention to sound like 'holier

than thou' or like a 'smart-ass'!

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