Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 - epston Nisargadatta Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:25 AM Re: Phil- We are the reality " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon www.epston.com Gassho to a friend... Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) > Ana > > > And therefore...........what? > > Phil > > L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that > Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the > illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, > some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth > there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is > part of reality. > > Larry Epsteon > www.epston.com > > Hi Larry, as far i see.....Phil talked about " the peace to be " ....and so that this peace is not related to anything.....it just Is ....like truth Is no definition about truth....indeed your words let me think of a theorie....you are making in your mind......about " what " and " how " truth....is....in your personal view of...... you write " we are not some error, some mistake that life is making " .....sure, it's also no " mistake " to dream during sleep.....or to be attached to whatever theorie.....when you wake up in the morning it's not enough to say that " there must be reason why " ....so let's continue....because of " some reason " .....or " God " ....or the poor world which we need to safe.....or....whatever " illusion " .... you write... " in truth there is no " making " .... " ....you talk about your personal " idea " of truth....ok ok, sure....in truth even..... " nothing ever happen " .....except the reflections of the Self....everybody can percieve..... thats, if you want, " my " view....and this " view " give me all the peace.....to don't realy care about this your illusory theories..... many realized persons tell about the ego-mind....who is the reason of this endless confusions (illusions)..... thats my opinion too.....and i agree to this " view " ....every day more i believe that people are so much attached to ego....means, seperations........because everything related to this attitude....give some wonderful happiness.....sometimes.... a happiness which " come and go " .....for the reason of ignorance about the Self Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/2006 4:26:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, epston writes: " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon Some want to play in illusion some more and some are interested in Truth. I fall into the latter category. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:17:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, dennis_travis33 writes: Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) > Ana > > > And therefore...........what? > > Phil > > L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that > Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the > illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, > some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth > there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is > part of reality. > > Larry Epsteon > www.epston.com > > Hi Larry, as far i see.....Phil talked about " the peace to be " ....and so that this peace is not related to anything.....it just Is ....like truth Is no definition about truth....indeed your words let me think of a theorie....you are making in your mind......about " what " and " how " truth....is....in your personal view of...... you write " we are not some error, some mistake that life is making " .....sure, it's also no " mistake " to dream during sleep.....or to be attached to whatever theorie.....when you wake up in the morning it's not enough to say that " there must be reason why " ....so let's continue....because of " some reason " .....or " God " ....or the poor world which we need to safe.....or....whatever " illusion " .... you write... " in truth there is no " making " .... " ....you talk about your personal " idea " of truth....ok ok, sure....in truth even..... " nothing ever happen " .....except the reflections of the Self....everybody can percieve..... thats, if you want, " my " view....and this " view " give me all the peace.....to don't realy care about this your illusory theories..... many realized persons tell about the ego-mind....who is the reason of this endless confusions (illusions)..... thats my opinion too.....and i agree to this " view " ....every day more i believe that people are so much attached to ego....means, seperations........because everything related to this attitude....give some wonderful happiness.....sometimes.... a happiness which " come and go " .....for the reason of ignorance about the Self Marc Yup. In the 'spiritually evolved', ego often trades it's drama and self righteousness for it's experience of God, and then clings and grasps and wallows some more. No wonder so few actually awaken from the trance of illusion. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:10:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, nli10u writes: " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon Some want to play in illusion some more and some are interested in Truth. I fall into the latter category. Phil Neither truth nor illusion is unless I am. Ana ;-) And therefore..........what? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:21:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, nli10u writes: " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon Some want to play in illusion some more and some are interested in Truth. I fall into the latter category. Phil Neither truth nor illusion is unless I am. Ana ;-) And therefore..........what? Phil an imagination!!!!! What about imagination? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 - ADHHUB Nisargadatta Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:51 PM Re: Phil- We are the reality In a message dated 1/11/2006 4:26:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, epston writes: " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon Some want to play in illusion some more and some are interested in Truth. I fall into the latter category. Phil Neither truth nor illusion is unless I am. Ana ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 - ADHHUB Nisargadatta Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:18 PM Re: Phil- We are the reality In a message dated 1/11/2006 12:10:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, nli10u writes: " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) Ana And therefore...........what? Phil L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the illusion that Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, nothing, and the illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not some error, some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, Again, in Truth there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " Contradiction is part of reality. Larry Epsteon Some want to play in illusion some more and some are interested in Truth. I fall into the latter category. Phil Neither truth nor illusion is unless I am. Ana ;-) And therefore..........what? Phil an imagination!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:17:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) > > Ana > > > > > > And therefore...........what? > > > > Phil > > > > L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the > illusion that > > Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, > nothing, and the > > illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not > some error, > > some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, > Again, in Truth > > there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " > Contradiction is > > part of reality. > > > > Larry Epsteon > > www.epston.com > > > > > > Hi Larry, > > as far i see.....Phil talked about " the peace to be " ....and so that > this peace is not related to anything.....it just Is > > ...like truth Is > > no definition about truth....indeed > > your words let me think of a theorie....you are making in your > mind......about " what " and " how " truth....is....in your personal view > of...... > > you write " we are not some error, some mistake that life is making " > ....sure, it's also no " mistake " to dream during sleep.....or to be > attached to whatever theorie.....when you wake up in the morning > > it's not enough to say that " there must be reason why " ....so let's > continue....because of " some reason " .....or " God " ....or the poor > world which we need to safe.....or....whatever " illusion " .... > > you write... " in truth there is no " making " .... " > ...you talk about your personal " idea " of truth....ok > > ok, sure....in truth even..... " nothing ever happen " .....except the > reflections of the Self....everybody can percieve..... > thats, if you want, " my " view....and this " view " give me all the > peace.....to don't realy care about this your illusory theories..... > > many realized persons tell about the ego-mind....who is the reason of > this endless confusions (illusions)..... > > thats my opinion too.....and i agree to this " view " ....every day more > > i believe that people are so much attached to ego....means, > seperations........because everything related to this > attitude....give some wonderful happiness.....sometimes.... > a happiness which " come and go " .....for the reason of ignorance about > the Self > > Marc > > > > Yup. > In the 'spiritually evolved', ego often trades it's drama and self > righteousness for it's experience of God, and then clings and grasps and wallows some > more. No wonder so few actually awaken from the trance of illusion. > > Phil yes....no wonder let's wish all the people some inner peace.....to know themSelf.... and so get detached from this illusions Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:50 AM Re: Phil- We are the reality Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:17:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, > dennis_travis33 writes: > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) > > Ana > > > > > > And therefore...........what? > > > > Phil > > > > L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the > illusion that > > Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, > nothing, and the > > illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are not > some error, > > some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, > Again, in Truth > > there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " > Contradiction is > > part of reality. > > > > Larry Epsteon > > www.epston.com > > > > > > Hi Larry, > > as far i see.....Phil talked about " the peace to be " ....and so that > this peace is not related to anything.....it just Is > > ...like truth Is > > no definition about truth....indeed > > your words let me think of a theorie....you are making in your > mind......about " what " and " how " truth....is....in your personal view > of...... > > you write " we are not some error, some mistake that life is making " > ....sure, it's also no " mistake " to dream during sleep.....or to be > attached to whatever theorie.....when you wake up in the morning > > it's not enough to say that " there must be reason why " ....so let's > continue....because of " some reason " .....or " God " ....or the poor > world which we need to safe.....or....whatever " illusion " .... > > you write... " in truth there is no " making " .... " > ...you talk about your personal " idea " of truth....ok > > ok, sure....in truth even..... " nothing ever happen " .....except the > reflections of the Self....everybody can percieve..... > thats, if you want, " my " view....and this " view " give me all the > peace.....to don't realy care about this your illusory theories..... > > many realized persons tell about the ego-mind....who is the reason of > this endless confusions (illusions)..... > > thats my opinion too.....and i agree to this " view " ....every day more > > i believe that people are so much attached to ego....means, > seperations........because everything related to this > attitude....give some wonderful happiness.....sometimes.... > a happiness which " come and go " .....for the reason of ignorance about > the Self > > Marc > > > > Yup. > In the 'spiritually evolved', ego often trades it's drama and self > righteousness for it's experience of God, and then clings and grasps and wallows some > more. No wonder so few actually awaken from the trance of illusion. > > Phil yes....no wonder let's wish all the people some inner peace.....to know themSelf.... and so get detached from this illusions Marc Mon Amie Marc, To know Oneself is inner peace, the deeper one moves into Self. And yet, and yet, since I Am is the illusion we are both the attachment and the disassociation thereof, Peace is inherent as we are Silence and we are Reality. As humans we seek peace with Reality,and know peace as Silence. IMHO Ana Not two. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Anna Ruiz " <nli10u@c...> wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:50 AM > Re: Phil- We are the reality > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@A... wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:17:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > dennis_travis33 writes: > > > > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote: > > > > > > " you " are the illusion of truth. ;-) > > > Ana > > > > > > > > > And therefore...........what? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > L.E: Whatever you want Phil, that's your freedom within the > > illusion that > > > Truth is creating. There's a relationship, there is Truth, > > nothing, and the > > > illusion that truth is creating within its nature, us. We are > not > > some error, > > > some mistake that Life is making. We are what Life is making, > > Again, in Truth > > > there is no " making " but we are still, what it is " making. " > > Contradiction is > > > part of reality. > > > > > > Larry Epsteon > > > www.epston.com > > > > > > > > > > Hi Larry, > > > > as far i see.....Phil talked about " the peace to be " ....and so > that > > this peace is not related to anything.....it just Is > > > > ...like truth Is > > > > no definition about truth....indeed > > > > your words let me think of a theorie....you are making in your > > mind......about " what " and " how " truth....is....in your personal > view > > of...... > > > > you write " we are not some error, some mistake that life is making " > > ....sure, it's also no " mistake " to dream during sleep.....or to > be > > attached to whatever theorie.....when you wake up in the morning > > > > it's not enough to say that " there must be reason why " ....so let's > > continue....because of " some reason " .....or " God " ....or the poor > > world which we need to safe.....or....whatever " illusion " .... > > > > you write... " in truth there is no " making " .... " > > ...you talk about your personal " idea " of truth....ok > > > > ok, sure....in truth even..... " nothing ever happen " .....except the > > reflections of the Self....everybody can percieve..... > > thats, if you want, " my " view....and this " view " give me all the > > peace.....to don't realy care about this your illusory > theories..... > > > > many realized persons tell about the ego-mind....who is the reason > of > > this endless confusions (illusions)..... > > > > thats my opinion too.....and i agree to this " view " ....every day > more > > > > i believe that people are so much attached to ego....means, > > seperations........because everything related to this > > attitude....give some wonderful happiness.....sometimes.... > > a happiness which " come and go " .....for the reason of ignorance > about > > the Self > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Yup. > > In the 'spiritually evolved', ego often trades it's drama and self > > righteousness for it's experience of God, and then clings and > grasps and wallows some > > more. No wonder so few actually awaken from the trance of illusion. > > > > Phil > > > yes....no wonder > > let's wish all the people some inner peace.....to know themSelf.... > and so get detached from this illusions > > Marc > > > Mon Amie Marc, > > To know Oneself is inner peace, the deeper one moves into Self. > And yet, and yet, since I Am is the illusion we are both the attachment > and the disassociation thereof, > > Peace is inherent as we are Silence and we are Reality. As humans we > seek peace with Reality,and know peace as Silence. > > IMHO > > Ana > > Not two. yes.....to know oneSelf is inner peace the peace which is real nature....real Self.....don't " give " peace....as long the illusion of being " this or that " are there yes....many humans seek peace....in the world....outside them..... and some others seek peace...the real nature inside themself..... and then find out....that the appearence of the world......is in no relation to the inner peace....present.....for all times some want to care about a world....even if they don't realy can care for themSelf..... some are in peace with the whole world......and so don't need anymore care about something........ the illusion of being the " doer " ....then....in any action.....is no more some know that peace and silence is inherent.... some live this peace wish you to know your Self....by endless inner peace...... means....without any emotions..... Marc > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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