Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/2006 2:35:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, adithya_comming writes: Further, as we can see from our experience of being at ease and relaxation in the presence of those who are 'non judgmental' and relaxed and 'all accepting' and our discomfort and unease in the presence of judgmental people - there are perhaps, only two real ways to remain relaxed and at ease in company of others: ------ Don't give any importance to what someone says, thinks about you. Have absolutely no concern for other's opinions about yourself. have absolutely no concern for their approval/disapproval, appreciation/criticism. or, ----- Avoid the company of overly judgmental people. Choose the company of those who are not very 'judgmental'. Choose the company of those who are genuinely 'accepting' 'forgiving' kind and compassionate! With warm regards, ac. And what you are actually saying is to stop judging the self. This is, in fact, why the judgments of others leave us uncomfortable. Again, perception and creation are the same. If self is not judged, the views of others will not be taken personally and there is no problem. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 NonDualPhil , " Durga " <durgaji108> wrote: > > NonDualPhil , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > > > > If you think about the immense > > popularity of someone like Ammachi, it > > is likely to be due to the 'inner > > peace' and 'love' that many people feel > > in her presence as her 'intellectual' > > message is quite simple and very > > minimal. And, she is unlikely to appeal > > greatly to someone's intellect. > > > > > > > > regards, > > ac. > > (A theory) > > Maybe that which one experiences as 'inner peace' > in the presence of another, is just the 'reflection' > in the mind of the experiencer, of that person's > own inner peace, i.e. the nature of the Self. > > When the mind relaxes, for whatever reason, be > it the fulfillment of a desire, or the cognition > of a pleasant object, or in the presence of > someone who appears themselves to be peaceful > or to emanate 'love,' then the reflection of > that Self, (from which one is actually never > separate,) may be experienced in the mind. > > We then say that 'peace' which we experienced, > emanated from someone or something else, > when it actually is a reflection, (experienced > in the mind), of our very own Being, from which we > are never apart. > > (That's one idea of how it works) > > Durga > Dear Durgaji, What you say above is very good and has a great degree of truth! I think it is quite easy to understand and in fact, a very similar phenomenon is felt by almost everyone in their day- to-day life! When you meet someone who holds no judgment, someone who doesn't judge you, someone who accepts you fully, unconditionally, whole-heartedly – you feel relaxed! When you meet someone who absolutely, unconditionally fully loves you without making any demands - you feel inner peace, relaxation and love! You feel this way because in presence of someone like that - you relax, you let go... as there is no need to make any effort! Because, as you can see [with little awareness of your own] much of our anxieties, stress, 'thinking', efforts in the presence of others is centered abound making ourselves 'acceptable', 'approvable' and 'loveable' [or 'impressive'] to someone around us! People are constantly judging us and we are constantly making efforts [often in form of thinking... what to say, what to do, how to appear] to meet and exceed those demands and expectations! So when we meet someone who makes absolutely no demands, who fully loves us unconditionally... our inner effort [noise] automatically subsides! .... As a result, almost all of us feel more uneasy, uncomfortable around someone who we know [and feel] is constantly judging and comparing and more relaxed around someone whom we found more relaxed, comfortable and accepting! In fact, the feeling of 'falling in love' simply feels good [as long as it TRULY lasts] because we believe that person truly admires, appreciates, adores and accepts us the way we are! We believe that we need not make any [extra] effort to win his/her love and approval. And, as a result, we naturally relax [in the lover's presence] and our inner peace and love becomes manifest! .... In this context, a fully realized being can bee seen as the Absolute Lover, the LOVE itself! One who makes absolutely No Demand and one who fully accepts with All its heart! .... Further, as we can see from our experience of being at ease and relaxation in the presence of those who are 'non judgmental' and relaxed and 'all accepting' and our discomfort and unease in the presence of judgmental people - there are perhaps, only two real ways to remain relaxed and at ease in company of others: ------ Don't give any importance to what someone says, thinks about you. Have absolutely no concern for other's opinions about yourself. have absolutely no concern for their approval/disapproval, appreciation/criticism. or, ----- Avoid the company of overly judgmental people. Choose the company of those who are not very 'judgmental'. Choose the company of those who are genuinely 'accepting' 'forgiving' kind and compassionate! With warm regards, ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 [...] > And what you are actually saying is to stop judging the self. This is, in > fact, why the judgments of others leave us uncomfortable. Again, perception and > creation are the same. If self is not judged, the views of others will not be > taken personally and there is no problem. > > Phil Yes. That is true. ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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