Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 My own answers to the questions of Only one Real Self or multiple " real " 'selves' might sound quite bizarre and very strange. I have not seen it mentioned anywhere and It is not something that I yet believe in. But, in a way, it does provide logical enough answers to some of the questions. That answer is that in addition to Sat- Chit-Ananda nature of the Self...is Self has one more nature... that of 'Creation'! And, that ability to 'create' is not limited to... thoughts, dreams, imaginations, things alone - Self can create 'copies' [children] of itself! All these copies [children] are in essence - Self itself - i.e. they too are Aware, Existent, Bliss and Creative! .... But, how that which can gets born and dies... be Eternal? But, it is a scientific fact that *everything* is eternal... nothing was ever really created and nothing ever gets " really " destroyed! It only changes forms - energy to matter - matter to energy. And, as the essence of all thing in *nothingness*, emptiness, as the Self is formless - it makes it Infinite as well as Eternal! No matter " how much " *nothing* you take out of nothing - it is still nothing! And, you can not destroy... " nothing " ! All that needs to happen for this *imagination* to work is that Self incarnates as many... all Self in themselves... whose physical nature is just indestructible, Eternal... Nothingness! All are Self... Yet, All are...them Selves! i.e. they are independent of each other and can progress, live, manifest and grow independently of each other. ... We see this phenomenon everywhere in the nature... From one plant comes many seeds and from them many more same plant. Yet, all these plants are separate and independent plants and can grow and live somewhat interpedently. same thing with humans giving birth to other humans which are same [because they too are human and share same attribute] yet are independent. Same with animals, birds, snakes, fishes and other living creatures... The cell divide and now thy create cells which are somewhat independent of each other. .... Same way, I am Self... You are Self... But, I am myself! In the essence, in physical dimension it is just *nothingness*. Only nothingness can expand to infinity but when it reverses direction... Infinity can again become nothingness too because, that is its essence! And, in nothingness... there is no one, two or many... it makes no difference and it doesn't apply. Only its manifestations can be counted and not its purity. .... So, in this *imagination*, Self grows into many... just as we see in its physical manifestation... galaxies, stars, planets, moons, plants, animals, humans... All of that is... Self... Yet, none of them [other that you] is... your Self! I am... my Self! And, you are... your Self! and, all is Self! And, Self is same [in its Essence]! Yet, we are independent and separate to some extent! Same in the essence... as when our nothingness gives us its *thing* manifestation... there is Absolutely No distinction and Division! Combine thousand nothings together... you still have nothing [and, you can't even count it]! Yet, different and somewhat independent and separate in manifestation! .... So, in a Sense, we are son of the God! Yet, we are Nothing but, God ourselves! [As is... everything Else] .... [There is indeed a *meeting* with *God*! But, that *meeting* is nothing but, just merging in our own Essence of... Nothingness! There is indeed... God, but, it is nothing other than our own Essence!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > > My own answers to the questions of > Only one Real Self or multiple " real " > 'selves' might sound quite bizarre and > very strange. > > I have not seen it mentioned anywhere > and It is not something that I yet > believe in. But, in a way, it does > provide logical enough answers to some > of the questions. > > > That answer is that in addition to Sat- > Chit-Ananda nature of the Self...is > Self has one more nature... that of > 'Creation'! > > And, that ability to 'create' is not > limited to... thoughts, dreams, > imaginations, things alone - Self can > create 'copies' [children] of itself! > All these copies [children] are in > essence - Self itself - i.e. they too > are Aware, Existent, Bliss and Creative! > > > ... > > > But, how that which can gets born and > dies... be Eternal? > > > But, it is a scientific fact that > *everything* is eternal... nothing was > ever really created and nothing ever > gets " really " destroyed! It only > changes forms - energy to matter - > matter to energy. > > > And, as the essence of all thing in > *nothingness*, emptiness, as the Self > is formless - it makes it Infinite as > well as Eternal! No matter " how much " > *nothing* you take out of nothing - it > is still nothing! And, you can not > destroy... " nothing " ! > > All that needs to happen for this > *imagination* to work is that Self > incarnates as many... all Self in > themselves... whose physical nature is > just indestructible, Eternal... > Nothingness! > > All are Self... > > Yet, All are...them Selves! i.e. they > are independent of each other and can > progress, live, manifest and grow > independently of each other. > > > ... > > > We see this phenomenon everywhere in > the nature... > > From one plant comes many seeds and > from them many more same plant. Yet, > all these plants are separate and > independent plants and can grow and > live somewhat interpedently. > > same thing with humans giving birth to > other humans which are same [because > they too are human and share same > attribute] yet are independent. > > Same with animals, birds, snakes, > fishes and other living creatures... > > The cell divide and now thy create > cells which are somewhat independent of > each other. > > > ... > > Same way, I am Self... > > You are Self... > > But, I am myself! > > In the essence, in physical dimension > it is just *nothingness*. Only > nothingness can expand to infinity but > when it reverses direction... Infinity > can again become nothingness too > because, that is its essence! > > And, in nothingness... there is no > one, two or many... it makes no > difference and it doesn't apply. > > Only its manifestations can be counted > and not its purity. > > > ... > > So, in this *imagination*, Self grows > into many... just as we see in its > physical manifestation... galaxies, > stars, planets, moons, plants, animals, > humans... > > All of that is... Self... > > Yet, none of them [other that you] > is... your Self! > > > I am... my Self! > > > And, you are... your Self! > > > and, all is Self! > > > And, Self is same [in its Essence]! > > > Yet, we are independent and separate > to some extent! > > Same in the essence... as when our > nothingness gives us its *thing* > manifestation... there is Absolutely No > distinction and Division! Combine > thousand nothings together... you still > have nothing [and, you can't even count > it]! > > Yet, different and somewhat > independent and separate in > manifestation! > > ... > > So, in a Sense, we are son of the God! > > Yet, we are Nothing but, God ourselves! > > [As is... everything Else] > > ... > > > [There is indeed a *meeting* with *God*! > > But, that *meeting* is nothing but, just > merging in our own Essence of... Nothingness! > > There is indeed... God, > but, it is nothing other than our own Essence!] thanks, nice ...and timeless words Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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