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My own answers to the questions of

Only one Real Self or multiple " real "

'selves' might sound quite bizarre and

very strange.

 

I have not seen it mentioned anywhere

and It is not something that I yet

believe in. But, in a way, it does

provide logical enough answers to some

of the questions.

 

 

That answer is that in addition to Sat-

Chit-Ananda nature of the Self...is

Self has one more nature... that of

'Creation'!

 

And, that ability to 'create' is not

limited to... thoughts, dreams,

imaginations, things alone - Self can

create 'copies' [children] of itself!

All these copies [children] are in

essence - Self itself - i.e. they too

are Aware, Existent, Bliss and Creative!

 

 

....

 

 

But, how that which can gets born and

dies... be Eternal?

 

 

But, it is a scientific fact that

*everything* is eternal... nothing was

ever really created and nothing ever

gets " really " destroyed! It only

changes forms - energy to matter -

matter to energy.

 

 

And, as the essence of all thing in

*nothingness*, emptiness, as the Self

is formless - it makes it Infinite as

well as Eternal! No matter " how much "

*nothing* you take out of nothing - it

is still nothing! And, you can not

destroy... " nothing " !

 

All that needs to happen for this

*imagination* to work is that Self

incarnates as many... all Self in

themselves... whose physical nature is

just indestructible, Eternal...

Nothingness!

 

All are Self...

 

Yet, All are...them Selves! i.e. they

are independent of each other and can

progress, live, manifest and grow

independently of each other.

 

 

...

 

 

We see this phenomenon everywhere in

the nature...

 

From one plant comes many seeds and

from them many more same plant. Yet,

all these plants are separate and

independent plants and can grow and

live somewhat interpedently.

 

same thing with humans giving birth to

other humans which are same [because

they too are human and share same

attribute] yet are independent.

 

Same with animals, birds, snakes,

fishes and other living creatures...

 

The cell divide and now thy create

cells which are somewhat independent of

each other.

 

 

....

 

Same way, I am Self...

 

You are Self...

 

But, I am myself!

 

In the essence, in physical dimension

it is just *nothingness*. Only

nothingness can expand to infinity but

when it reverses direction... Infinity

can again become nothingness too

because, that is its essence!

 

And, in nothingness... there is no

one, two or many... it makes no

difference and it doesn't apply.

 

Only its manifestations can be counted

and not its purity.

 

 

....

 

So, in this *imagination*, Self grows

into many... just as we see in its

physical manifestation... galaxies,

stars, planets, moons, plants, animals,

humans...

 

All of that is... Self...

 

Yet, none of them [other that you]

is... your Self!

 

 

I am... my Self!

 

 

And, you are... your Self!

 

 

and, all is Self!

 

 

And, Self is same [in its Essence]!

 

 

Yet, we are independent and separate

to some extent!

 

Same in the essence... as when our

nothingness gives us its *thing*

manifestation... there is Absolutely No

distinction and Division! Combine

thousand nothings together... you still

have nothing [and, you can't even count

it]!

 

Yet, different and somewhat

independent and separate in

manifestation!

 

....

 

So, in a Sense, we are son of the God!

 

Yet, we are Nothing but, God ourselves!

 

[As is... everything Else]

 

....

 

 

[There is indeed a *meeting* with *God*!

 

But, that *meeting* is nothing but, just

merging in our own Essence of... Nothingness!

 

There is indeed... God,

but, it is nothing other than our own Essence!]

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Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

<adithya_comming> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> My own answers to the questions of

> Only one Real Self or multiple " real "

> 'selves' might sound quite bizarre and

> very strange.

>

> I have not seen it mentioned anywhere

> and It is not something that I yet

> believe in. But, in a way, it does

> provide logical enough answers to some

> of the questions.

>

>

> That answer is that in addition to Sat-

> Chit-Ananda nature of the Self...is

> Self has one more nature... that of

> 'Creation'!

>

> And, that ability to 'create' is not

> limited to... thoughts, dreams,

> imaginations, things alone - Self can

> create 'copies' [children] of itself!

> All these copies [children] are in

> essence - Self itself - i.e. they too

> are Aware, Existent, Bliss and Creative!

>

>

> ...

>

>

> But, how that which can gets born and

> dies... be Eternal?

>

>

> But, it is a scientific fact that

> *everything* is eternal... nothing was

> ever really created and nothing ever

> gets " really " destroyed! It only

> changes forms - energy to matter -

> matter to energy.

>

>

> And, as the essence of all thing in

> *nothingness*, emptiness, as the Self

> is formless - it makes it Infinite as

> well as Eternal! No matter " how much "

> *nothing* you take out of nothing - it

> is still nothing! And, you can not

> destroy... " nothing " !

>

> All that needs to happen for this

> *imagination* to work is that Self

> incarnates as many... all Self in

> themselves... whose physical nature is

> just indestructible, Eternal...

> Nothingness!

>

> All are Self...

>

> Yet, All are...them Selves! i.e. they

> are independent of each other and can

> progress, live, manifest and grow

> independently of each other.

>

>

> ...

>

>

> We see this phenomenon everywhere in

> the nature...

>

> From one plant comes many seeds and

> from them many more same plant. Yet,

> all these plants are separate and

> independent plants and can grow and

> live somewhat interpedently.

>

> same thing with humans giving birth to

> other humans which are same [because

> they too are human and share same

> attribute] yet are independent.

>

> Same with animals, birds, snakes,

> fishes and other living creatures...

>

> The cell divide and now thy create

> cells which are somewhat independent of

> each other.

>

>

> ...

>

> Same way, I am Self...

>

> You are Self...

>

> But, I am myself!

>

> In the essence, in physical dimension

> it is just *nothingness*. Only

> nothingness can expand to infinity but

> when it reverses direction... Infinity

> can again become nothingness too

> because, that is its essence!

>

> And, in nothingness... there is no

> one, two or many... it makes no

> difference and it doesn't apply.

>

> Only its manifestations can be counted

> and not its purity.

>

>

> ...

>

> So, in this *imagination*, Self grows

> into many... just as we see in its

> physical manifestation... galaxies,

> stars, planets, moons, plants, animals,

> humans...

>

> All of that is... Self...

>

> Yet, none of them [other that you]

> is... your Self!

>

>

> I am... my Self!

>

>

> And, you are... your Self!

>

>

> and, all is Self!

>

>

> And, Self is same [in its Essence]!

>

>

> Yet, we are independent and separate

> to some extent!

>

> Same in the essence... as when our

> nothingness gives us its *thing*

> manifestation... there is Absolutely No

> distinction and Division! Combine

> thousand nothings together... you still

> have nothing [and, you can't even count

> it]!

>

> Yet, different and somewhat

> independent and separate in

> manifestation!

>

> ...

>

> So, in a Sense, we are son of the God!

>

> Yet, we are Nothing but, God ourselves!

>

> [As is... everything Else]

>

> ...

>

>

> [There is indeed a *meeting* with *God*!

>

> But, that *meeting* is nothing but, just

> merging in our own Essence of... Nothingness!

>

> There is indeed... God,

> but, it is nothing other than our own Essence!]

 

 

 

thanks, nice ...and timeless words

 

Marc

>

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