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Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote:

>

> We read about Oneness and the pervasive Self, the Brahman, so if

there is

> Oneness, a unity of Life, where is there room or a space for

ignorance?

W: " IF " there is Oneness there is space for ignorance, and of course

readind about it can only give us a IF.

Do you

> think the ego is outside of this Oneness?

W: why? does it matter?

 

Isn't it obvious that this Oneness

> incluldes everything including you and your questions?

 

W: yes, it is. but if this Oneness is another concept, it is as

knowing 2+2=4. good for business but doesn't transform our life

 

> I guess from where you are, separateness is what you experience

and you

> insist that it is a reality or an illusion you are stuck inside

of. Then you

> disagree with Oneness which is the most common vision of the great

spiritual

> teachers. Who is it, in essense, that is holding the view of

separation, someone

> outside of Oneness, outside of the Infinite Life? Perhaps this is

the nature

> of the ego, to feel outside of Truth, outside of Life, outside of

Oneness and

> when you as the indivual ego die to the physical, you will again be

embraced by

> the spritual, the Oneness. So most people live in the illusion of

> separatness, only to be returned to the One after death. So be it,

so it is. No

> problem. Only a few experience this Oneness in this ordinary life,

as an exception,

> an anomally, a unique event and most everyone else stays in the

life of the

> ordinary, the conventional, the limited.

 

W: this is your point of view Larry, i respect it.

 

So it is as it is.

 

 

W: Amen. but nothing to do with what you think about it!

 

 

> Larry

>

> p.s. You don't have an ego, you are an ego. You don't have a

self, you are

> a self.

> You don't live in illusion, you are the illusion. Wake Up!

 

 

W: it is not by repeating it that we are gonna get it :)

 

miao

 

 

>

> In a message dated 1/21/2006 8:02:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

bigwaa

> ba writes:

>

> > Nisargadatta , epston@a... wrote:

> > >

> > >Most writers about spiritual life talk about the existence of a

> > problem.

> > >Mostly, the problem with ego, or the problems of self-awareness,

or

> > the

> > >problem of self discovery, etc.

> > >I see no problem at all with anything.

> > >It is as it is, as Self is creating it. Whether it's a dream or

> > not, an

> > >illusion or not, it is perfect the way it is, as it is.

> > >I wonder why so few it it this way.

> > >It seems so obvious to me.

> > >

> > >Larry

> > >

> > it is " this way " only for you! obviously :)

> >

> > still wondering...

>

>

>

>

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