Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 On Jan 29, 2006, at 8:03 PM, billrishel wrote: > Presence, awareness, the Now has no location. > And further, there is no location *in* it. > > So there is no geometry of Now. > > Without location there is no time. > So the Now is also timeless. > > The root location is the root of all extension > and is the " here " , the " this " the " me, myself " . > Where there is this, here, me myself there > is the " origin " of a geometry that surveys > a world of suffering. > > > > Bill > > P: Very nice! It might be good to add that the sense of 'I', 'me', and 'mine' is nothing but that activity of the mind intent on managing consciousness. Always seeking this sensation, and avoiding than one. Always discriminating, anticipating, acquiring, preventing, fearing, always desiring to be entertained, and thrilled, and always preferring that over this. When it's seen that this activity is both the sense of 'I " and the occluding factor, then the mind becomes very quiet, and consciousness stands alone unrestricted, undistinguishable from 'what is, in the now.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 > > Presence, awareness, the Now has no location. > > And further, there is no location *in* it. > > > > So there is no geometry of Now. > > > > Without location there is no time. > > So the Now is also timeless. > > > > The root location is the root of all extension > > and is the " here " , the " this " the " me, myself " . > > Where there is this, here, me myself there > > is the " origin " of a geometry that surveys > > a world of suffering. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > P: Very nice! It might be good to add that the > sense of 'I', 'me', and 'mine' is nothing but that > activity of the mind intent on managing > consciousness. Always seeking this sensation, > and avoiding than one. Always discriminating, > anticipating, acquiring, preventing, fearing, > always desiring to be entertained, and thrilled, > and always preferring that over this. > > When it's seen that this activity is both the sense > of 'I " and the occluding factor, then the mind > becomes very quiet, and consciousness stands > alone unrestricted, undistinguishable from > 'what is, in the now.' ......... What you suggest gives a different spin to things than what was intriguing me when I wrote the piece. Your suggestion seems to posit a " mind " as fundamental, as *behind* what appears. My preference is to consider that " mind " is only appearance. Further, I find it interesting to consider that the *appearance* of " mind " is " seeded " by the so-called sense " here " , " this " , " me " , " myself " etc. I am considering those four things as distinct " flavors " of basically the same thing, i.e. a sense of " central tendency " . I am suggesting that without a sense of central tendency there is not the possiblity of a sense of extension (i.e. extensibility in space or " length " ), and without extensibility you don't have any geometry or sense of a space that can " contain " anything. I'm just now thinking aspects of this through, but it seems that without extension you don't can't have a notion of quantity ( " how much " ) either. And without a notion of quantity, how can you have a notion of time? It would have to be *very* limited if you did have. So, my core point is that a sense of central tendency is essential to the notions of space and time. And without space and time what kind of " mind " can there *appear* to be? Hence I am suggesting that a sense of central tendency is more fundamental that any " appearance of mind " . And I am also suggesting that a sense of central tendency is the fundamental stumbling block. As I said initially, it is the " origin " of a geometry that surveys a world of suffering. Note: I have put " origin " in quotes as a hint that it is a double entendre: origin in a *spatial* sense of the origin for a coordinate system, and origin in a chronological sense of " beginning " . And I am suggesting that both space and time spring from this " origin " . Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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