Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 > > AC, > > Ever had an anesthesia ? Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only. > Or been in coma ? No. But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times! Does that qualify for anything? > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to speak of > a " knower " . Question that I see is: " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'? There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear. But, are they different at the base level or, is it just that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are not functioning? What about someone who loses his memory? Does the base awareness disappears or just some neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that lose part of their functionality? .... Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation... Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears in that case? .... If I don't feel 'body'... does it mean I am not Aware? What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'? [What about those cases, where some people some people got operated without any anesthetics because, they were able to disconnect from a body part and stop feeling it when needed?] .... Do you see I AM as a physical body? > > Werner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > > AC, > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ? > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only. > > > Or been in coma ? > > No. > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times! > Does that qualify for anything? > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to speak > of > > a " knower " . > > Question that I see is: > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'? To " whom " do the anesthetics get applied to ME or a 'body'? [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > > AC, > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ? > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only. > > > Or been in coma ? > > No. > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times! > Does that qualify for anything? > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to speak > of > > a " knower " . > > Question that I see is: > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'? > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear. > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are > not functioning? > > What about someone who loses his memory? > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that > lose part of their functionality? > > ... > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation... > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears > in that case? > > ... > > If I don't feel 'body'... does > it mean I am not Aware? > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'? > > [What about those cases, where some people > some people got operated without > any anesthetics because, they were able to > disconnect from a body part and stop > feeling it when needed?] > > ... > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body? > > > > > > Werner > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING! YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU THINK TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thanks, BW, For the shortcut to end tis discussion. btw, why do you write in upper case ? To stress the importance of your words, like in: DANGER, QUICKSANDS ! ? Werner Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming " > <adithya_comming> wrote: > > > > > > > > AC, > > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ? > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only. > > > > > Or been in coma ? > > > > No. > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times! > > Does that qualify for anything? > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to speak > > of > > > a " knower " . > > > > Question that I see is: > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'? > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear. > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are > > not functioning? > > > > What about someone who loses his memory? > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that > > lose part of their functionality? > > > > ... > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation... > > > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears > > in that case? > > > > ... > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does > > it mean I am not Aware? > > > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'? > > > > [What about those cases, where some people > > some people got operated without > > any anesthetics because, they were able to > > disconnect from a body part and stop > > feeling it when needed?] > > > > ... > > > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body? > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING! > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU THINK TO > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Thanks, BW, > > For the shortcut to end tis discussion. > > btw, why do you write in upper case ? To stress the importance of > your words, like in: DANGER, QUICKSANDS ! ? > > Werner > LOL!!! can't hide any more!!! maybe...to vibrate at the same level of " I AM " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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