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Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> <adithya_comming> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > AC,

> > >

> > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> >

> > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only.

> >

> > > Or been in coma ?

> >

> > No.

> >

> > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > Does that qualify for anything?

> >

> > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to

speak

> > of

> > > a " knower " .

> >

> > Question that I see is:

> >

> > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> >

> > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > not functioning?

> >

> > What about someone who loses his memory?

> >

> > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > lose part of their functionality?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> >

> >

> > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > in that case?

> >

> > ...

> >

> > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > it mean I am not Aware?

> >

> >

> > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> >

> > [What about those cases, where some people

> > some people got operated without

> > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > feeling it when needed?]

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

>

> IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU THINK

TO

> KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT

> IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

 

how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

 

....or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

 

.....or does the ones who know to don't real know something belief

in " God " ...?

 

or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

 

i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and so,

also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know the same

 

Marc

 

Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > AC,

> > > >

> > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > >

> > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only.

> > >

> > > > Or been in coma ?

> > >

> > > No.

> > >

> > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > >

> > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to

> speak

> > > of

> > > > a " knower " .

> > >

> > > Question that I see is:

> > >

> > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > >

> > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > not functioning?

> > >

> > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > >

> > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > lose part of their functionality?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > >

> > >

> > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > in that case?

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > >

> > >

> > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > >

> > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > some people got operated without

> > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > feeling it when needed?]

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > >

> >

> > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU

THINK

> TO

> > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION, BECAUSE

IT

> > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

>

> how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

>

> ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

>

> ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something belief

> in " God " ...?

>

> or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

>

> i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and so,

> also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know the same

>

> Marc

>

> Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

>

>

 

 

Thank you for making me smile Marc, and, ok, i won't care...

 

 

i really don't know what to say about those question, so...better

don't care!

 

 

 

 

 

>

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > AC,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > >

> > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only.

> > > >

> > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > >

> > > > No.

> > > >

> > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > >

> > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to

> > speak

> > > > of

> > > > > a " knower " .

> > > >

> > > > Question that I see is:

> > > >

> > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > >

> > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > not functioning?

> > > >

> > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > >

> > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > in that case?

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > >

> > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > some people got operated without

> > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > >

> > >

> > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU

> THINK

> > TO

> > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

BECAUSE

> IT

> > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> >

> > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> >

> > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> >

> > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something belief

> > in " God " ...?

> >

> > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> >

> > i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and so,

> > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know the

same

> >

> > Marc

> >

> > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> >

> >

>

>

> Thank you for making me smile Marc, and, ok, i won't care...

>

>

> i really don't know what to say about those question, so...better

> don't care!

 

ok bigwaaba......maybe another time.....when your mind is clearer

then........means when there is a chance to " know " something....:)

 

Marc

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

>

 

good thought Werner....:)

 

you are right.....there is a " God " in the world conception only.....

 

and yes....who cares about the world...

 

except a foolish mind.....busy " thinking " .....to " know

nothing " ......:)

 

Marc

 

> Hey Marc,

>

> I told you already: Beware of thinking.

>

> 'God' is only an assumption, a concept, an idea. You cannot use an

> assumption to lend another assumption the smell of reality.

>

> assumption + assumption = confusion :)

>

> Werner

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > AC,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > >

> > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only.

> > > >

> > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > >

> > > > No.

> > > >

> > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > >

> > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare to

> > speak

> > > > of

> > > > > a " knower " .

> > > >

> > > > Question that I see is:

> > > >

> > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > >

> > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > not functioning?

> > > >

> > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > >

> > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > in that case?

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > >

> > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > some people got operated without

> > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > >

> > >

> > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU

> THINK

> > TO

> > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

BECAUSE

> IT

> > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> >

> > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> >

> > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> >

> > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something belief

> > in " God " ...?

> >

> > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> >

> > i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and so,

> > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know the

same

> >

> > Marc

> >

> > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> >

>

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Marc,

 

Intelligence can only perfectly work with facts. If one offers one's

intelligence all life through just illusions, assunptions, ideas,

hopes, concepts, then how can one gain clairy ? It is impossible.

 

The word fact derives from the Latin 'facere', to make, to do.

Example, when it rains then the streets get wet. That is a fact.

 

In the meantime I have developed some kind of sensitivity when I am

starting to get confused when thinking. And that confusion happens

often and my usual reaction is to say to the subject I got confused

about: Fuck you :)

 

Werner

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

> wrote:

> >

>

> good thought Werner....:)

>

> you are right.....there is a " God " in the world conception only.....

>

> and yes....who cares about the world...

>

> except a foolish mind.....busy " thinking " .....to " know

> nothing " ......:)

>

> Marc

>

> > Hey Marc,

> >

> > I told you already: Beware of thinking.

> >

> > 'God' is only an assumption, a concept, an idea. You cannot use an

> > assumption to lend another assumption the smell of reality.

> >

> > assumption + assumption = confusion :)

> >

> > Werner

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AC,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > > >

> > > > > No.

> > > > >

> > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare

to

> > > speak

> > > > > of

> > > > > > a " knower " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Question that I see is:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > > >

> > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > > not functioning?

> > > > >

> > > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > > >

> > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > > in that case?

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > > >

> > > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > > some people got operated without

> > > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU

> > THINK

> > > TO

> > > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

> BECAUSE

> > IT

> > > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> > >

> > > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> > >

> > > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> > >

> > > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something

belief

> > > in " God " ...?

> > >

> > > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> > >

> > > i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and

so,

> > > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know the

> same

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> > > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

wrote:

>

 

Werner,

 

nice attitude.....

 

what do you think when it's raining?....

 

LOL

 

Marc

 

>

> Intelligence can only perfectly work with facts. If one offers

one's

> intelligence all life through just illusions, assunptions, ideas,

> hopes, concepts, then how can one gain clairy ? It is impossible.

>

> The word fact derives from the Latin 'facere', to make, to do.

> Example, when it rains then the streets get wet. That is a fact.

>

> In the meantime I have developed some kind of sensitivity when I am

> starting to get confused when thinking. And that confusion happens

> often and my usual reaction is to say to the subject I got confused

> about: Fuck you :)

>

> Werner

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> >

> > good thought Werner....:)

> >

> > you are right.....there is a " God " in the world conception

only.....

> >

> > and yes....who cares about the world...

> >

> > except a foolish mind.....busy " thinking " .....to " know

> > nothing " ......:)

> >

> > Marc

> >

> > > Hey Marc,

> > >

> > > I told you already: Beware of thinking.

> > >

> > > 'God' is only an assumption, a concept, an idea. You cannot use

an

> > > assumption to lend another assumption the smell of reality.

> > >

> > > assumption + assumption = confusion :)

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba "

<bigwaaba>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AC,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times

only.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would

dare

> to

> > > > speak

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > a " knower " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Question that I see is:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > > > not functioning?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > > > in that case?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > > > some people got operated without

> > > > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH

YOU

> > > THINK

> > > > TO

> > > > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

> > BECAUSE

> > > IT

> > > > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> > > >

> > > > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> > > >

> > > > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> > > >

> > > > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something

> belief

> > > > in " God " ...?

> > > >

> > > > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> > > >

> > > > i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and

> so,

> > > > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know

the

> > same

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > > >

> > > > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AC,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times only.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > > >

> > > > > No.

> > > > >

> > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would dare

to

> > > speak

> > > > > of

> > > > > > a " knower " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Question that I see is:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > > >

> > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > > not functioning?

> > > > >

> > > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > > >

> > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > > in that case?

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > > >

> > > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > > some people got operated without

> > > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH YOU

> > THINK

> > > TO

> > > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

> BECAUSE

> > IT

> > > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> > >

> > > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> > >

> > > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> > >

> > > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something

belief

> > > in " God " ...?

> > >

> > > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> > >

> > > i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and

so,

> > > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know the

> same

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> > > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Thank you for making me smile Marc, and, ok, i won't care...

> >

> >

> > i really don't know what to say about those question,

so...better

> > don't care!

>

> ok bigwaaba......maybe another time.....when your mind is clearer

> then........means when there is a chance to " know " something....:)

>

> Marc

> >

 

 

ok, now i'm clearer

 

first of all, questions about god have to be asked to god. that's the

best advice i can give, and it is just good sense.

 

so if you believe in God, better ask God and have the right answer

without passing through a medium.

as for me i do not know anything about God, but there is a lot of

information about also in the web.

 

yours

 

 

 

 

 

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> > >

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> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba "

<bigwaaba>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AC,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times

only.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would

dare

> to

> > > > speak

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > a " knower " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Question that I see is:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or hear.

> > > > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > > > not functioning?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > > > in that case?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > > > some people got operated without

> > > > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH

YOU

> > > THINK

> > > > TO

> > > > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

> > BECAUSE

> > > IT

> > > > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> > > >

> > > > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> > > >

> > > > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> > > >

> > > > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something

> belief

> > > > in " God " ...?

> > > >

> > > > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> > > >

> > > > i belief that " God " know very well about....everything....and

> so,

> > > > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know

the

> > same

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > > >

> > > > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you for making me smile Marc, and, ok, i won't care...

> > >

> > >

> > > i really don't know what to say about those question,

> so...better

> > > don't care!

> >

> > ok bigwaaba......maybe another time.....when your mind is clearer

> > then........means when there is a chance to " know " something....:)

> >

> > Marc

> > >

>

>

> ok, now i'm clearer

>

> first of all, questions about god have to be asked to god. that's

the

> best advice i can give, and it is just good sense.

>

> so if you believe in God, better ask God and have the right answer

> without passing through a medium.

> as for me i do not know anything about God, but there is a lot of

> information about also in the web.

>

> yours

 

ok...i will phone to God and will see...

 

ciao for now

>

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33> wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba "

> <bigwaaba>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > AC,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times

> only.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would

> dare

> > to

> > > > > speak

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > a " knower " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Question that I see is:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or

hear.

> > > > > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it just

> > > > > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > > > > not functioning?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical sensation...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > > > > in that case?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > > > > some people got operated without

> > > > > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > > > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN WHICH

> YOU

> > > > THINK

> > > > > TO

> > > > > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO DISCUSSION,

> > > BECAUSE

> > > > IT

> > > > > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> > > > >

> > > > > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> > > > >

> > > > > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real knowing?

> > > > >

> > > > > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know something

> > belief

> > > > > in " God " ...?

> > > > >

> > > > > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> > > > >

> > > > > i belief that " God " know very well

about....everything....and

> > so,

> > > > > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could know

> the

> > > same

> > > > >

> > > > > Marc

> > > > >

> > > > > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for making me smile Marc, and, ok, i won't care...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > i really don't know what to say about those question,

> > so...better

> > > > don't care!

> > >

> > > ok bigwaaba......maybe another time.....when your mind is

clearer

> > > then........means when there is a chance to " know "

something....:)

> > >

> > > Marc

> > > >

> >

> >

> > ok, now i'm clearer

> >

> > first of all, questions about god have to be asked to god. that's

> the

> > best advice i can give, and it is just good sense.

> >

> > so if you believe in God, better ask God and have the right

answer

> > without passing through a medium.

> > as for me i do not know anything about God, but there is a lot of

> > information about also in the web.

> >

> > yours

>

> ok...i will phone to God and will see...

>

> ciao for now

 

Marc,

 

How did you get my phone number!? I meant to ask you that during our

telephone conversation but I forgot.

 

" Silver "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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1069@h...> wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba "

<bigwaaba>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

> > > > > <dennis_travis33> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba "

> > <bigwaaba>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " adithya_comming "

> > > > > > > <adithya_comming> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > AC,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ever had an anesthesia ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes. But, local anesthetics only and maybe, 2-3 times

> > only.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Or been in coma ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But, I did have 'sleep' many, many times!

> > > > > > > > Does that qualify for anything?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes ? I don't believe you, else you no longer would

> > dare

> > > to

> > > > > > speak

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > a " knower " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Question that I see is:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Who " is in 'coma' - I AM or the 'body'?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are people [bodies] that are unable to see or

> hear.

> > > > > > > > But, are they different at the base level or, is it

just

> > > > > > > > that some of the senses 'belonging to their body' are

> > > > > > > > not functioning?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What about someone who loses his memory?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Does the base awareness disappears or just some

> > > > > > > > neurons in the brain [belonging to a body] that

> > > > > > > > lose part of their functionality?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now, imagine a state where the brain [belonging

> > > > > > > > to a 'body'] loses all its sense perception and thus

> > > > > > > > can't hear, see and can't feel any physical

sensation...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do you think the base Awareness itself disappears

> > > > > > > > in that case?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If I don't feel 'body'... does

> > > > > > > > it mean I am not Aware?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What about those who claim to feel 'bodiless'?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [What about those cases, where some people

> > > > > > > > some people got operated without

> > > > > > > > any anesthetics because, they were able to

> > > > > > > > disconnect from a body part and stop

> > > > > > > > feeling it when needed?]

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do you see I AM as a physical body?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > IT IS A DISCUSSION BASED ON NOTHING!

> > > > > > > YOU ARE ASSUMING A MAKING QUESTION FROM A PLACE IN

WHICH

> > YOU

> > > > > THINK

> > > > > > TO

> > > > > > > KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE KNOWER. PUT IT INTO

DISCUSSION,

> > > > BECAUSE

> > > > > IT

> > > > > > > IS JUST ANOTHER CONCEPT. NO REAL KNOWING IS POSSIBLE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > how about " God " ....does " God " know realy something?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...or does one know " God " because there is no real

knowing?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ....or does the ones who know to don't real know

something

> > > belief

> > > > > > in " God " ...?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > or....does " God " ever " think " about something?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i belief that " God " know very well

> about....everything....and

> > > so,

> > > > > > also, that there is nobody else existing.....who could

know

> > the

> > > > same

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marc

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ps: please don't care about my beliefs...:)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for making me smile Marc, and, ok, i won't care...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > i really don't know what to say about those question,

> > > so...better

> > > > > don't care!

> > > >

> > > > ok bigwaaba......maybe another time.....when your mind is

> clearer

> > > > then........means when there is a chance to " know "

> something....:)

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ok, now i'm clearer

> > >

> > > first of all, questions about god have to be asked to god.

that's

> > the

> > > best advice i can give, and it is just good sense.

> > >

> > > so if you believe in God, better ask God and have the right

> answer

> > > without passing through a medium.

> > > as for me i do not know anything about God, but there is a lot

of

> > > information about also in the web.

> > >

> > > yours

> >

> > ok...i will phone to God and will see...

> >

> > ciao for now

>

> Marc,

>

> How did you get my phone number!? I meant to ask you that during

our

> telephone conversation but I forgot.

>

> " Silver " ,

 

there is a direct line to God....24hours a day....

i dialed " Silver " ....and got you....funny, no?

 

Marc

 

 

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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