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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@g...>

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> > Moreover, one never knows anyOne, unless the distance between

noOne

> and someOne is bridged... Imho

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> > Nothing happens here, in these still waters...

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> Now that is nice!

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> Yes, to know what " *oneself* is going through " is absurd as well!

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> And this connects back to the thing about oneself and another

> sharing a moment in Now.

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> It is not that oneself and another share a moment in Now.

> In Now there may be a bit of what appears to by oneself

> and a bit of what appears to be another stirred in.

> But what is going on is just Now... it is not about

> anybody having a " Now experience " .

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> This is a little difficult to make very clear.

> Just as Copernicus turned everything on its head,

> so with respect to Now, to understand means turning

> everything on its head.

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> Nobody is ever in the Now!

> And I'm not just playing with words there.

> That is literally a fact.

> In Now there simply cannot *be* anybody!

> It is impossible.

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> Sometimes there may be a brief period of

> " loss of self " such that one afterwards says,

> " I was in the Now. "

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> But such a report is invalid and useless.

> Or worse.

>

> Bill

 

Hi Bill,

 

yes, it's difficult to write about " the now "

 

trying to use the world-mirror concept.....

(hope nobody loose the self for a brief period of time, reading this

words....means don't want to know what he/she is going through by

this meaningless words

 

so one look in the world (mirror) and detect " another " one

few possibilities:

 

-one is aware of witness Self (by which one get the opportunity

to " see " something)

being aware of Self, and so....of Self of both....

it's impossible to know what the other one is going through

except maybe that he/she seem to have same awareness....or not

 

-one is aware of oneself (only) and knowing that being in One world

with the " other one " ....at this same time....connected and related

and...and...

there is also an emotional contact between each happening because

both share to be in same " situation " ....means, being not aware of

Self....and so missing this......

this missing Self awareness let them both " understand " more or less

what each one is going through.....

 

-one is aware of oneself without knowing to be in One world with

the " other one " .....

(don't know...anymore, what could be this scenario....but if one

remind the history and facts of wars as for example....maybe one see

how deep is the misunderstanding for each ones.... " going through " )

 

 

few thoughts about the subject....

 

i don't take any responsibility if someone feel to start to believe

in " God " ....now

(God as the one...and only....who is going through.... " paradise " )

 

lol

 

Marc

 

 

 

 

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