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one is aware of witness Self (by which one get the opportunity

to " see " something)

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So witness Self is aware of witness Self?

 

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-one is aware of oneself (only) and knowing that being in One world

with the " other one " ....at this same time....connected and related

and...and...

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you are saying one is aware of oneself and at the

same time aware of a relatedness connection with another?

 

OK

 

But it is also possible for there to be no awareness

" of oneself " per se, for there to be awareness/consciousness

without any sense of " this pertains to myself " and " that

pertains to the other " .

 

What I am saying there, though, is very strange and impossible

to imagine. Once the " sense of oneself " disappears then

the same sort of things seem to go on, but it is irrevokably

different as well.

 

Bill

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@g...>

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> > > Moreover, one never knows anyOne, unless the distance between

> noOne

> > and someOne is bridged... Imho

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> > > Nothing happens here, in these still waters...

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> > Now that is nice!

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> > Yes, to know what " *oneself* is going through " is absurd as well!

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> > And this connects back to the thing about oneself and another

> > sharing a moment in Now.

> >

> > It is not that oneself and another share a moment in Now.

> > In Now there may be a bit of what appears to by oneself

> > and a bit of what appears to be another stirred in.

> > But what is going on is just Now... it is not about

> > anybody having a " Now experience " .

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> > This is a little difficult to make very clear.

> > Just as Copernicus turned everything on its head,

> > so with respect to Now, to understand means turning

> > everything on its head.

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> > Nobody is ever in the Now!

> > And I'm not just playing with words there.

> > That is literally a fact.

> > In Now there simply cannot *be* anybody!

> > It is impossible.

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> > Sometimes there may be a brief period of

> > " loss of self " such that one afterwards says,

> > " I was in the Now. "

> >

> > But such a report is invalid and useless.

> > Or worse.

> >

> > Bill

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> Hi Bill,

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> yes, it's difficult to write about " the now "

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> trying to use the world-mirror concept.....

> (hope nobody loose the self for a brief period of time, reading this

> words....means don't want to know what he/she is going through by

> this meaningless words

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> so one look in the world (mirror) and detect " another " one

> few possibilities:

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> -one is aware of witness Self (by which one get the opportunity

> to " see " something)

> being aware of Self, and so....of Self of both....

> it's impossible to know what the other one is going through

> except maybe that he/she seem to have same awareness....or not

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> -one is aware of oneself (only) and knowing that being in One world

> with the " other one " ....at this same time....connected and related

> and...and...

> there is also an emotional contact between each happening because

> both share to be in same " situation " ....means, being not aware of

> Self....and so missing this......

> this missing Self awareness let them both " understand " more or less

> what each one is going through.....

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> -one is aware of oneself without knowing to be in One world with

> the " other one " .....

> (don't know...anymore, what could be this scenario....but if one

> remind the history and facts of wars as for example....maybe one see

> how deep is the misunderstanding for each ones.... " going through " )

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> few thoughts about the subject....

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> i don't take any responsibility if someone feel to start to believe

> in " God " ....now

> (God as the one...and only....who is going through.... " paradise " )

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> lol

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