Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 I had a strange dream last night. I was a young black man wearing a full length leader coat. The young man had just arrived at a party, and was looking around, when the most beautiful black girl appeared by his side and helped him out of his coat. " What a precious coat! I could caress this leather all night long, " she said with a mischievous look at him. I, or rather my dream incarnation was about to speak, when I woke up. I was rather disappointed, this could have turn out to be, a wonderful dream. I got up and went about my day. Later this morning waiting for a train, who do I see walking toward me, but an identical twin of the girl in my dream? I stared at her like a fool. I just could not believe my eyes. She caught me staring, and gave me a sweet smile and walked on. What a strange coincidence! But being a fiction writer I couldn't help but wonder, are we populating this universe with our dreams characters? What a scary thought! Are all those strangers we see crossing the street, driving, and shopping, escapees from someone else's dreams. Did Sadam, and Bush escaped from Arvind's scary dreams? Idle speculation, I know, just a fantasy about a dream. But if... we are asleep when we dream, the dream characters seem wide awake. I have never dreamt with someone who was asleep, that I recall. Have you? What are they really up to? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4 wrote: > > I had a strange dream last night. I was a young > black man wearing a full length leader coat. The > young man had just arrived at a party, and was > looking around, when the most beautiful black > girl appeared by his side and helped him out > of his coat. " What a precious coat! I could caress > this leather all night long, " she said with a > mischievous look at him. I, or rather my dream > incarnation was about to speak, when I woke up. > I was rather disappointed, this could have turn out > to be, a wonderful dream. > > I got up and went about my day. Later this morning > waiting for a train, who do I see walking toward me, > but an identical twin of the girl in my dream? I stared > at her like a fool. I just could not believe my eyes. > She caught me staring, and gave me a sweet smile > and walked on. What a strange coincidence! But > being a fiction writer I couldn't help but wonder, are > we populating this universe with our dreams characters? > What a scary thought! Are all those strangers we see > crossing the street, driving, and shopping, escapees > from someone else's dreams. Did Sadam, and Bush > escaped from Arvind's scary dreams? > > Idle speculation, I know, just a fantasy about a dream. > But if... > we are asleep when we dream, the dream characters > seem wide awake. I have never dreamt > with someone who was asleep, that I recall. Have you? > What are they really up to? > > > Pete Interesting speculation. I don't recall meeting someone asleep in my dreams either. All the dream characters seem fully awake and busy doing something or other. I converse with many of them. Some just seem to be part of the background, like the people you see but never get to know on the streets. Some of these dream characters appear more often than others. They come and go. Usually, the ones who appear most frequently are my family and friends and coworkers. The rest are complete strangers that my mind has created for the purpose of...what? The people who make the strongest impression upon me from day to day are usually the ones who show up in my dreams more frequently than not. The others are strangers to me, just as much as the strangers in my dreams are. Does my mind create these, also? The question is, does the mind create both our dream characters and non-dream characters? Is it wrong to call our non-dream characters 'characters'? Maybe 'people' is a better word. For what purpose? Does it matter what the mind does or doesn't? " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 On Feb 2, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Nisargadatta wrote: > Interesting speculation. I don't recall meeting someone asleep in my > dreams either. All the dream characters seem fully awake and busy > doing something or other. I converse with many of them. Some just > seem to be part of the background, like the people you see but never > get to know on the streets. Some of these dream characters appear > more often than others. They come and go. Usually, the ones who > appear most frequently are my family and friends and coworkers. The > rest are complete strangers that my mind has created for the purpose > of...what? > > The people who make the strongest impression upon me from day to day > are usually the ones who show up in my dreams more frequently than > not. The others are strangers to me, just as much as the strangers > in my dreams are. Does my mind create these, also? > > The question is, does the mind create both our dream characters and > non-dream characters? Is it wrong to call our non-dream > characters 'characters'? Maybe 'people' is a better word. > > For what purpose? Does it matter what the mind does or doesn't? P: Hi Silver, I like you, you're smart guy! And if you don't give up inquiring you'll get to that place where there are no more questions, and speculation is done only for fun. And fun it is, for some, but we most be clear not to build a cosmology on the fruits of our speculations. Dreams have a very tempting similitude with reality, and many lazy minds take similitude for proof, and conclude life is but a dream, but if you seriously examine that conclusion, you'll see that by concluding so, we have robbed both words of any meaning. It surely matters what the mind does, because what it does leads to a happy or unhappy life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4 wrote: >It surely matters what the mind does, because what it does leads >to a happy or unhappy life. A already thought a few times that this might be your philosophy. But alas, dear Pete, it simply does not work this way. The desire for a happy life leads only to more suffering. You cannnot get only just one side of the coin. Sri Nisargadatta: " The end of pain lies not in pleasure. When you realise that you are beyond both pain and pleasure, aloof and unassailable, then the pursuit of happiness ceases and the resultant sorrow too. For pain aims at pleasure and pleasure ends in pain, relentlessly. " Still I wish you happiness Stefan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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