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The illusion of a witnesing entity arises because the mind was

trained to use the body as the referennce for " I " and those

associated personal nouns.

 

Besides that illusion there is no witness.

 

Werner

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

> >

>

> Hi Bill,

>

> you write:

> > one is aware of witness Self (by which one get the opportunity

> > to " see " something)

> > >>>

> > So witness Self is aware of witness Self?

>

> -no....the ego-mind.....means, this your body-mind-intellect....can

> be aware of witness Self....

>

> one day....when ego-mind is reduced to a wonderful....and complete

> emptyness.....

> then you are Self......but then the world (ego-mind) is no

more......

> or little maybe....only....sometimes.......to play with

words.....as

> for example....ot to just live life....in nice peace and freedom

> >

> > <<<

> > -one is aware of oneself (only) and knowing that being in One

world

> > with the " other one " ....at this same time....connected and related

> > and...and...

> > >>>

> > you are saying one is aware of oneself and at the

> > same time aware of a relatedness connection with another?

>

> what could be a " relatedness connection " ?

> >

> >you write:

> > But it is also possible for there to be no awareness

> > " of oneself " per se, for there to be awareness/consciousness

> > without any sense of " this pertains to myself " and " that

> > pertains to the other " .

>

> yes....no awarness of oneself is happening at same time when there

is

> awareness of Self....(first option)

> as i told before....awareness of Self....let this " oneself " and the

> world appear like a " nothingness " .... " unreal " .... " reflections " ....

> when this happen...then there is " no other " .....there is nothing

but

> Self....

> but This Self......is formless, changeless.....it's a complete

> emptyness......of illusions .....it's No mind

> >

>

> you write:

> > What I am saying there, though, is very strange and impossible

> > to imagine. Once the " sense of oneself " disappears then

> > the same sort of things seem to go on, but it is irrevokably

> > different as well.

>

> it isn't very strange.....

> once the " sense of oneself " disappear.....life goes on.....

> with little difference......

> there is no need to safe the world or care for endless

ambitions......

>

> all This things.....let this your

> mentionned....flame.....burning......

>

> it is like the air this flame need to burn.....but it is no

> more.......the air itself

>

>

> Marc

> >

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