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S: It surely matters what the mind does, because what it does leads

>to a happy or unhappy life.

 

A already thought a few times that this might be your philosophy. But

alas, dear Pete, it simply does not work this way. The desire for a

happy life leads only to more suffering. You cannnot get only just one

side of the coin.

 

P: My poor laboratory rat, you still

don't understand this maze you are trapped

in. It's not about desires. It's all about

right or wrong steps, and consequences.

Thoughts, ideas, beliefs, and actions have

consequences. Take one step in one direction,

and you get cheese; take a step the other way,

you get a shock. The maze has no exit!

So There is only two possible solutions:

Die, or accept electricity or cheese

with equal equanimity. :))

 

 

 

 

 

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Pete wrote:

>P: My poor laboratory rat, you still

>don't understand this maze you are trapped

>in. It's not about desires. It's all about

>right or wrong steps, and consequences.

>Thoughts, ideas, beliefs, and actions have

>consequences. Take one step in one direction,

>and you get cheese; take a step the other way,

>you get a shock. The maze has no exit!

>So There is only two possible solutions:

>Die, or accept electricity or cheese

>with equal equanimity. :))

 

My dear Pete,

 

sure I understand that maze...

even more so I wonder why you still

advocated the strive for a dream like...

a " happy life " ...

 

all the best

Stefan

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4 wrote:

>

>

> On Feb 2, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Nisargadatta wrote:

>

> > Interesting speculation. I don't recall meeting someone asleep

in my

> > dreams either. All the dream characters seem fully awake and busy

> > doing something or other. I converse with many of them. Some

just

> > seem to be part of the background, like the people you see but

never

> > get to know on the streets. Some of these dream characters appear

> > more often than others. They come and go. Usually, the ones who

> > appear most frequently are my family and friends and coworkers.

The

> > rest are complete strangers that my mind has created for the

purpose

> > of...what?

> >

> > The people who make the strongest impression upon me from day to

day

> > are usually the ones who show up in my dreams more frequently than

> > not. The others are strangers to me, just as much as the

strangers

> > in my dreams are. Does my mind create these, also?

> >

> > The question is, does the mind create both our dream characters

and

> > non-dream characters? Is it wrong to call our non-dream

> > characters 'characters'? Maybe 'people' is a better word.

> >

> > For what purpose? Does it matter what the mind does or doesn't?

>

>

> P: Hi Silver,

>

> I like you, you're smart guy! And if you don't give up inquiring

you'll

> get to that place where there are no more questions, and speculation

> is done only for fun. And fun it is, for some, but we most be clear

not

> to build a cosmology on the fruits of our speculations. Dreams have

> a very tempting similitude with reality, and many lazy minds take

> similitude for proof, and conclude life is but a dream, but if you

> seriously examine that conclusion, you'll see that by concluding

> so, we have robbed both words of any meaning.

>

> It surely matters what the mind does, because what it does leads

> to a happy or unhappy life.

>

 

I would rather not identify with the endless speculations of the

mind. The mind gets confused and lost. It follows the wind. It

thinks it knows itself and puts its trust in its functions. It

depends upon itself for a happy existence. The mind defines ideal

happiness and then searches for that ideal outside. When it hasn't

found it in things, it searches within for it and comes up dry. The

search for meaning continues on relentlessly. The mind is constantly

on the move and it whimsically changes course in obedience to its own

dictates. The mind is its own best friend as well as its own worst

enemy. Why give the mind any importance? Why not just let it do

what it does and forget about it? I have quit trying to run my mind;

now I let it run on its own. I can literally sit back and laugh at

its aimless wanderings through the jungle of Consciousness, wether or

not it is dreaming. And laughter feels so good! From This

perspective, the joke is fantastically hilarious. And detached from

it as I am, I can have endless fun and enjoy the moments of happiness

it brings to this mind I seem to have here. You're right, it is fun

to use this mind assigned to myself by Me.

 

" Silver "

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