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Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> " omikron23 " <omikron23

> Re: Trapped in a Bubble of Consciousness...

>

>

>

>

>

> I may also put this differently: Why am I only aware of what I am

> > > aware of, and not what you and everybody else is aware of at

the

> > same

> > > time?

>

>

> Hey, I found out sumthin interesting yesterday; my brow chakra

calibrates

> well into the range of enlightenment on the Hawkins calibration of

> consciousness scale. WooHooo!! My brow is enlightened! Hehe. Oh,

but........the rest of

> me isn't. Oops! Hehe.

>

> So what's the point? Only that, if we can all agree that none of us

knows

> our ass from a hole in the ground, we can sit around and have some

fun with

> concepts that have nothing at all to do with Absolute Truth. For

example, we can

> ponder just what it is that Awareness is " aware of " . Hmmmm,

awareness is the

> totality of all that is and there is nothing but awareness. Given

that

> hypothetical contextual conceptualization, awareness is not " aware

of " anything;

> it simply IS awareness itself.

>

> To be 'aware of' something, one must seemingly not be that which

one is

> aware of. Since Awareness itself can't play that game,

consciousness arises out

> of awareness as the experiential aspect of God. Why do it do dat?

God is

> infinite potentiality, and consciousness is one of those

potentialities, and

> potentialities tend to actualize. IOW, it does it cause it can.

>

> So, what is required in order to be qualified for the job of

experiential

> aspect of God? Well, first you have to give up your day job as

supreme,

> omnipotent, omniscient Allness and become a somethingness that can

sit behind the

> counter and witness other bits and pieces of somethingness come in

and out the

> door. IOW, experiencing, by it's nature, is the experience of

something that

> denies the experience of everything. Experiencing is the birth of

separation

> and the creation of endless dualities, stuff being experienced

through the

> perceiving mind that identifies stuff by comparing stuff to other

stuff and

> figuring out what stuff it's like and what stuff it's just the

opposite to,

> stuff like that.

>

> So the silly question might arise, why can't an experiencer

experience

> everything that everyone else experiences since all the

experiencers are just

> pimples growing on the same consciousness, and consciousness is

what we all

> really are, rather than individual experiencers? We could say that

the total

> summed experience of all experiencers is equivalent to the total

experiential

> aspect of God, or consciousness itself, but take a gander at what

that consists

> of. There are 6.5 billion human experiencers alone. Although the

kind of

> consciousness is different, animals, plants minerals and even

subatomic particles

> are part of the experiential aspect of God. Multiply this by every

celestial

> object in every universe in every dimension throughout all time

and cram that

> into the single moment of Now and tell me what that experience

looks like.

> Damn, I have trouble slowing my own thoughts down! I'm not even

gonna go

> there, and God can't go there either, which is why you are here and

why you will

> never know the experiential reality of anybody else's experience

but your own.

>

> God is not a concept, not a thought, not a perception, not an

experience.

> God IS, I AM, get over it. It's far too simple for any of us to

comprehend,

> which never stopped us from trying.

>

> Phil

>

>

> PS, on that 'enjoying flaming others' thang, I highly recommend

taking a

> really close look see at that one.

 

Phil, I really enjoyed mauling over this post of yours. I see it as

one of the more interesting ones that have come in lately.

 

The first paragraph, mentioning Dr. Hawkins' Calibration Scale of

Consciousness, led me to learn a little bit about Applied Kinesiology

and Ideomotor Action. I learned that although the term " Ideomotor

Action " has been around for about 150 years, even many trained

scientists do not know about it and get fooled by it.

 

These same self-deluded scientists often become leading supporters of

and staunch advocates for pseudoscientific theories, such as Applied

Kinesiology, and mislead many into seriously believing in the very

things you mention in that first paragraph of yours.

 

Rather than taking such things with a grain of salt or viewing them

in the same light as you do - simply having " fun with concepts which

have nothing at all to do with Absolute Truth - many followers would

stake their life savings on the supposed efficacy of such a

pseudoscientific methodology as Hawkins'.

 

I, too, enjoy playing around with the God and Awareness concepts. I

have no idea why I find it fun though. Not always, however. I do

get tired of playing and want nothing more than to go back in the

house and watch Mother Earth bake me an Apple Pie or something.

 

How's your mug? Throw some wood on the fire and I'll go get some

more of my homemade mugwort. Plus, I think Mom's Apple Pie is just

about cool enough for consumption. I like slices of cheese on mine.

Do you? I'll cut some if you want. Lol.

 

" Silver "

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In a message dated 2/6/2006 2:29:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

" s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069

Re: Trapped in a Bubble of Consciousness.../Phil

 

Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote:

>

>

> " omikron23 " <omikron23

> Re: Trapped in a Bubble of Consciousness...

>

>

>

>

>

> I may also put this differently: Why am I only aware of what I am

> > > aware of, and not what you and everybody else is aware of at

the

> > same

> > > time?

>

>

> Hey, I found out sumthin interesting yesterday; my brow chakra

calibrates

> well into the range of enlightenment on the Hawkins calibration of

> consciousness scale. WooHooo!! My brow is enlightened! Hehe. Oh,

but........the rest of

> me isn't. Oops! Hehe.

>

> So what's the point? Only that, if we can all agree that none of us

knows

> our ass from a hole in the ground, we can sit around and have some

fun with

> concepts that have nothing at all to do with Absolute Truth. For

example, we can

> ponder just what it is that Awareness is " aware of " . Hmmmm,

awareness is the

> totality of all that is and there is nothing but awareness. Given

that

> hypothetical contextual conceptualization, awareness is not " aware

of " anything;

> it simply IS awareness itself.

>

> To be 'aware of' something, one must seemingly not be that which

one is

> aware of. Since Awareness itself can't play that game,

consciousness arises out

> of awareness as the experiential aspect of God. Why do it do dat?

God is

> infinite potentiality, and consciousness is one of those

potentialities, and

> potentialities tend to actualize. IOW, it does it cause it can.

>

> So, what is required in order to be qualified for the job of

experiential

> aspect of God? Well, first you have to give up your day job as

supreme,

> omnipotent, omniscient Allness and become a somethingness that can

sit behind the

> counter and witness other bits and pieces of somethingness come in

and out the

> door. IOW, experiencing, by it's nature, is the experience of

something that

> denies the experience of everything. Experiencing is the birth of

separation

> and the creation of endless dualities, stuff being experienced

through the

> perceiving mind that identifies stuff by comparing stuff to other

stuff and

> figuring out what stuff it's like and what stuff it's just the

opposite to,

> stuff like that.

>

> So the silly question might arise, why can't an experiencer

experience

> everything that everyone else experiences since all the

experiencers are just

> pimples growing on the same consciousness, and consciousness is

what we all

> really are, rather than individual experiencers? We could say that

the total

> summed experience of all experiencers is equivalent to the total

experiential

> aspect of God, or consciousness itself, but take a gander at what

that consists

> of. There are 6.5 billion human experiencers alone. Although the

kind of

> consciousness is different, animals, plants minerals and even

subatomic particles

> are part of the experiential aspect of God. Multiply this by every

celestial

> object in every universe in every dimension throughout all time

and cram that

> into the single moment of Now and tell me what that experience

looks like.

> Damn, I have trouble slowing my own thoughts down! I'm not even

gonna go

> there, and God can't go there either, which is why you are here and

why you will

> never know the experiential reality of anybody else's experience

but your own.

>

> God is not a concept, not a thought, not a perception, not an

experience.

> God IS, I AM, get over it. It's far too simple for any of us to

comprehend,

> which never stopped us from trying.

>

> Phil

>

>

> PS, on that 'enjoying flaming others' thang, I highly recommend

taking a

> really close look see at that one.

 

Phil, I really enjoyed mauling over this post of yours. I see it as

one of the more interesting ones that have come in lately.

 

The first paragraph, mentioning Dr. Hawkins' Calibration Scale of

Consciousness, led me to learn a little bit about Applied Kinesiology

and Ideomotor Action. I learned that although the term " Ideomotor

Action " has been around for about 150 years, even many trained

scientists do not know about it and get fooled by it.

 

These same self-deluded scientists often become leading supporters of

and staunch advocates for pseudoscientific theories, such as Applied

Kinesiology, and mislead many into seriously believing in the very

things you mention in that first paragraph of yours.

 

Rather than taking such things with a grain of salt or viewing them

in the same light as you do - simply having " fun with concepts which

have nothing at all to do with Absolute Truth - many followers would

stake their life savings on the supposed efficacy of such a

pseudoscientific methodology as Hawkins'.

 

I, too, enjoy playing around with the God and Awareness concepts. I

have no idea why I find it fun though. Not always, however. I do

get tired of playing and want nothing more than to go back in the

house and watch Mother Earth bake me an Apple Pie or something.

 

How's your mug? Throw some wood on the fire and I'll go get some

more of my homemade mugwort. Plus, I think Mom's Apple Pie is just

about cool enough for consumption. I like slices of cheese on mine.

Do you? I'll cut some if you want. Lol.

 

" Silver "

 

 

 

 

I'll take cheese on absolutely anything, thanks. Bring it on over to the

cliff and we'll dangle our feet over the edge and guzzle the mugwort. The view

is magnificent! :)

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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> I'll take cheese on absolutely anything, thanks. Bring it on over to

the

> cliff and we'll dangle our feet over the edge and guzzle the

mugwort. The view

> is magnificent! :)

>

> Phil

 

Could be dangerous, Phil. It's pretty potent stuff. We might fall

over!! It's all fun and games until someone's eye gets poked out.

That's what Mom says. Hehe.

 

" Silver "

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 2/7/2006 11:56:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

" s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069

Re: Trapped in a Bubble of Consciousness.../Phil

 

 

> I'll take cheese on absolutely anything, thanks. Bring it on over to

the

> cliff and we'll dangle our feet over the edge and guzzle the

mugwort. The view

> is magnificent! :)

>

> Phil

 

Could be dangerous, Phil. It's pretty potent stuff. We might fall

over!! It's all fun and games until someone's eye gets poked out.

That's what Mom says. Hehe.

 

" Silver "

 

 

 

True........Okay, make some room on that log. Not a good time to play fast

and loose with the void. :)~

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

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