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it was more about awareness being the source of

consciousness, pretty long post..

Thank-you anyway for the help...

Patricia

--- Anna Ruiz <nli10u a écrit :

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marc,

 

Consciousness is its content. No content, no

consciousness.

 

Read the following and think about it:

 

There are cases of people whose complete visual

functions are ok but

these people nevertheless are blind. They are blind

because the

conncection between that part of the brain which is

processing visual

data and the visual part of the frontal lobe is

demaged.

 

The processed data cannot get conscious and so the

result is

blindness.

 

The interesting thing now is that these people can

walk in a room

without bumnping against furniture or at any objects

there. If one

hits

with one's fist towards their face they quickly will

bend their head

aside and when asked why they did that they don't

know, they just

felt to act that way.

 

Which means, these people do see but they cannot

communicate what they

see because that consciousness for vision is dead. But

their body

reacts in a normal autonomous way as if seeing.

 

Then what for does one need consciousness ? The answer

is simple,

consciousness is only needed for communcation.

 

Consciousness is a social function.

 

All those wonderful godly, holy and great spiritual

ideas about

consciousness are just fancy romantic illusions.

 

We are social beings, the larger part of our brain

just exists for

social reasons.

 

Consciousness is one's subjective personal view of the

world and this

world human beings are exchanging and communicating

amomg themselves.

 

Werner

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

 

<dennis_travis33 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr "

<wwoehr@>

> wrote:

> >

>

> Werner,

>

> what is your consciousness about?

>

> Marc

>

> > Marc,

> >

> > What kind of crap is this 'trapped consiousness' ?

> >

> > 1) There is consciousness

> > 2) There is a trap

> >

> > And wooooom - dumb consciousness fell into that

trap, how come ?

> >

> > Werner

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta ,

" dennis_travis33 "

> > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Werner

Woehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > >

> > > Hi Werner,

> > >

> > > how are you?

> > >

> > > you seem to know everything about the

subject....about

> > > me......and...and.....

> > >

> > > i'm wondering if you also know everything about

yourSelf.....:)

> > >

> > > Werner, please tell me..... " who are you " ....?

> > >

> > > thanks for a sincere answer

> > >

> > > Marc

> > >

> > >

> > > > Marc,

> > > >

> > > > Did you ever step out of 'trapped

consciousness' ? No ? Then

> why

> > do

> > > > you give advices you yourself can't fulfill ?

> > > >

> > > > And, what kind of nonsense is that 'trapped

consciousness' ?

I

> > > would

> > > > say it is absolute unbelievable baloney, bla

bla gobbledygook.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta ,

" dennis_travis33 "

> > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > whenever one is trapped in a bubble of

consciousness...

> > > > > it's time to go out of trap...

> > > > >

> > > > > the only time to step out of

consciousness.....means, to

step

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > being trapped.....is.....now

> > > > >

> > > > > different ways to loose " consciousness

about... " ......means,

> > time

> > > > and

> > > > > space - consciousness.....(included

boby-mind-intellect)....

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) fall in love to another (trapped)

consciousness....

> > > > > this would fill up the heart with some peace

and

> > timelessness....

> > > > > for some duration of time

> > > > > 2)fall in love to " God " ....the only " real

being " ......because

> > is

> > > > > formless, changless,infinite....and so, a

secure place " to

be "

> > > > > 3)getting in touch to Self....by the effect

of 1) and 2)

> > > > > 4) " understanding " truth by the teachings of

(inner) Self....

> > > > > 5)development of " awareness " .....means, to

make the

> difference

> > > > > between " trapp and non-trapp " ....between

Self and Non-Self

> > > > > 6)just be yourSelf, always

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > only few bubbles of consciousness.....

> > > > > so i don't believe that it's possible to get

out of

> > > bubbles.....in

> > > > > reading other bubbles....

> > > > >

> > > > > wish a nice day

> > > > >

> > > > > Marc

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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