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No Werner, it isn`t the one. Maybe somebody else wrote

it then.

Did Silver wrote that ? Consciousness being the desire

of personnal expression, born from awareness?

something like that...

Thank-you all,

Patricia

--- Werner Woehr <wwoehr a écrit :

 

 

 

Hi Patricia,

 

I can't remember that I wrote such a thing. Maybe it

was the

following text I wrote in a reply to Marc ?:

 

------

There are cases of people whose complete visual

functions are ok but

these people nevertheless are blind. They are blind

because the

conncection between that part of the brain which is

processing visual

data and the visual part of the frontal lobe is

demaged.

 

The processed data cannot get conscious and so the

result is

blindness.

 

The interesting thing now is that these people can

walk in a room

without bumnping against furniture or at any objects

there. If one

hits

with one's fist towards their face they quickly will

bend their head

aside and when asked why they did that they don't

know, they just

felt to act that way.

 

Which means, these people do see but they cannot

communicate what they

see because that consciousness for vision is dead. But

their body

reacts in a normal autonomous way as if seeing.

 

Then what for does one need consciousness ? The answer

is simple,

consciousness is only needed for communcation.

 

Consciousness is a social function.

 

All those wonderful godly, holy and great spiritual

ideas about

consciousness are just fancy romantic illusions.

 

We are social beings, the larger part of our brain

just exists for

social reasons.

 

Consciousness is one's subjective personal view of the

world and this

world human beings are exchanging and communicating

amomg themselves.

-------

 

Werner

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia

<gdtige

wrote:

>

> I think Werner wrote that one a couple of days ago,

> and I can`t find it but really enjoyed it and would

> like to ponder over it again.

> It was about awereness and how consciousness, being

> the will of experiencing, is its product...

> Does that ring a bell?

> Can it be sent back to me?

> Many thanks..

> Patricia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Sorry Patricia. I don't recall writing anything about that. Maybe

Larry?

 

" Silver "

 

Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

> No Werner, it isn`t the one. Maybe somebody else wrote

> it then.

> Did Silver wrote that ? Consciousness being the desire

> of personnal expression, born from awareness?

> something like that...

> Thank-you all,

> Patricia

> --- Werner Woehr <wwoehr a écrit :

>

>

>

> Hi Patricia,

>

> I can't remember that I wrote such a thing. Maybe it

> was the

> following text I wrote in a reply to Marc ?:

>

> ------

> There are cases of people whose complete visual

> functions are ok but

> these people nevertheless are blind. They are blind

> because the

> conncection between that part of the brain which is

> processing visual

> data and the visual part of the frontal lobe is

> demaged.

>

> The processed data cannot get conscious and so the

> result is

> blindness.

>

> The interesting thing now is that these people can

> walk in a room

> without bumnping against furniture or at any objects

> there. If one

> hits

> with one's fist towards their face they quickly will

> bend their head

> aside and when asked why they did that they don't

> know, they just

> felt to act that way.

>

> Which means, these people do see but they cannot

> communicate what they

> see because that consciousness for vision is dead. But

> their body

> reacts in a normal autonomous way as if seeing.

>

> Then what for does one need consciousness ? The answer

> is simple,

> consciousness is only needed for communcation.

>

> Consciousness is a social function.

>

> All those wonderful godly, holy and great spiritual

> ideas about

> consciousness are just fancy romantic illusions.

>

> We are social beings, the larger part of our brain

> just exists for

> social reasons.

>

> Consciousness is one's subjective personal view of the

> world and this

> world human beings are exchanging and communicating

> amomg themselves.

> -------

>

> Werner

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia

> <gdtige@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I think Werner wrote that one a couple of days ago,

> > and I can`t find it but really enjoyed it and would

> > like to ponder over it again.

> > It was about awereness and how consciousness, being

> > the will of experiencing, is its product...

> > Does that ring a bell?

> > Can it be sent back to me?

> > Many thanks..

> > Patricia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

____________________

> _____

> > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec

> Messenger ! Découvez

> les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et

> l'international.

> > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.

> >

>

**

>

> If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to

> change your subscription, sign in with your ID

> and go to Edit My Groups:

>

> /mygroups?edit=1

>

> Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email "

> for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes.

>

>

>

>

>

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