Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 .... The 'bodymind' needs you to identify with it, in order o function... is a long- standing delusion! The 'bodymind' needs constant direction from you... is a long-standing delusion! For most part, it is a 'self sustaining' system... it breathes, it grows, it digests, it fights bacteria, it pumps blood, it makes blood... all without needing constant directions from you! It also " feels " right and wrong, kind and unkind, pleasant and unpleasant, hurtful and soothing without needing your constant directions or *identification*! .... To think that it needs your constant directions to feel the way it does is... a Delusion and it adds to the suffering and ignorance that might already be there! In reality, it feels the way it feels irrespective of whether you want it or Not! .... In the above 9/11 example, it might feel bad, sad, gloomy, heartbroken, moved, shaken, horrified, afraid, enraged, angry, and vengeful on witnessing planes crashing into buildings and causing Death! But, to think that these 'emotions' happened because of *your* directions... is a Delusion! They happened on their 'own'! Or, you can say your bodymind is conditioned to 'feel' that way given those inputs! It doesn't need any directions from *you* to do That! By 'dreaming' that it *felt* this way because of *you* is a delusion that causes suffering and confusion and in fact, it diminishes your capacity to see Clearly and Act Rightly ! .... Think about any event that made you you feel bad no matter who *BAD* the even itself was... What is the 'purpose' of... *feeling bad*? What you can do by *feeling bad* that you can not perform *without* feeling bad? Do you need to *feel bad* in order to solve a problem, feed the hungry, to take care of a disease, to pull someone out of a rubble, to band-aid an injured, to fight fire? Does your *feeling bad* make you more *efficient* in doing so? In reality, your *feeling bad* might serve no real purpose that creating a 'manufactured' suffering for yourself not really helping anybody else! You can be very well seating at home, feeling all gloomy, sad, heartbroken, worried and not doing ANYTHING at all to really help the situation! You might be simply feeling bad yourself, creating suffering for yourself and spreading suffering to others via your speech and contact! Your *feeling bad* serves no useful purpose in that case! So why is it there? Did you consciously create it? Once you full realize that you can do *whatever* you find necessary or useful with feeling bad... would you ever *consciously* *feel bad* Again? What for? .... If 'bodymind' really operated based on your directions and decisions why would you EVER " choose " to feel bad, sad or Pathetic... no matter what the event? .... A situation is what it is... You might ACT to make it the way you feel appropriate, you might respond the way see fit, you might help, you might assist, you might soothe... but, none of that require you to *feel bad*! In fact, by feeling bad, in many cases, you lose your *objectivity* and clear seeing and end up doing thing that are not really *helpful* or *reacting* many times more than necessary and furthering the cycle of suffering! In many other cases, you *excess* grief, fear, worry, stress simply makes you *incapacitated* and you are NOT ABLE to help the situation that you think needs your help! .... It is not that, by staying as you are, by realizing yourself apart from bodymind and its emotions... you lose your capacity to ACT, soothe or help... In fact, you are able to help only when you are able to maintain some distance between *what is wise and needed* and what an 'unconscious' bodymind might feel! Only by *un-identifying*, you gain this distance and this clear seeing independent of attachments! Those who gain *total* un-identification, are the only who can see with TOTAL Clarity! Those are the only one who can act for *total good*! Those who are *blinded* by identification with how body feels simply keep perpetuating the cycles of violence, suffering and Blame! Only by Clear Seeing... you step out of this Vicious Cycle! Only by *un-identifying* that which feels without your *conscious* guidance – you can gain Clear Seeing! .... Once you are able to constantly abide in that formless essence beyond 'conditioned' bodymind don't lose your capacity to know right/wrong, kind/unkind, Light supportive versus Negative... or your capacity to act... In fact, then, for the first time, you gain Clear Seeing and the ability of TOTAL Right Action! The action that is Conscious, the action that is Wise, the Action that is guided by Clear, total and Detached Seeing... The action that is Not an *attachment driven* BLIND, Unconscious Reaction! [NNB] Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > >>Group, > >>I am a big fan of Nisargadatta but there is one aspect > of > his teaching I haven't understood completely. According to him > realizing the self is to be in a state where you have no memmory of > anything or feel anything at all. According to him it is only the > mind- > body which is capable of experiencing anything. He often compared the > state of self realization to being like Bombay or New York for that > matter. The terror strikes in N.Y struck terror in the hearts of New > Yorkers but not New York. Whatever happens in N.Y does not affect New > York per se only the people who live there. So what's the point I am > trying to make? The point I am trying to make is that N.Y minus its > people is as dead as a dodo. So what's the point in striving for a > state in which one is as good as dead. Will some one enlighten me. > > >>alec > > > Remain as you are... > > Let the 'bodymind' do what it finds > appropriate! > > > ... > > Even when try " to be " something else, > still in reality, you only remain... as > you are! > > By 'pretending', by 'dreaming' to be > something else [the bodymind], you > merely create unnecessary suffering and > delusion! > > The 'bodymind' can still do what it > finds appropriate without " you " having > to identify that... it is *you* that > feels hurt, heartbroken, dismayed, or > pathetic! Without identifying that is > *you*... who feels like 'needing' to do > something! > > The 'bodymind' can still do what it > finds appropriate without... " you " > feeling like the 'doer'! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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