Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > the mirror Itself.....is what let appear all This......but it is Not > all This..... > > Self....and Non Self..... > > therefore.....i choose to give up my limited self.....this limited > body-mind-intellect .... " who " is only a reflection of Self.... > > and no-thing else > >>>> > > again... very lucid Marc... > > the mirror metaphor you use is very interesting > > I don't consider there to be a mirror, only what-is... > but I see a sense in what you are saying as well > > and I see neither Self, nor Non Self > > I guess I don't see anything standing out as > substantially real > > but I seem to understand what you say > > > i don't think that it is such easy..... > > > > therefore....in my words about Self...and so also about Non- Self.... > > i try to explain thats it's worth still....to keep on moving up.... > > I know it's not easy, and I know it is not difficult > As Krishnamurti would say, it is *arduous* > > Coming back again and again and again and again > to what immediately presents > > Just that > > Is that " moving up " ? > If so, OK then > > but more it seems not moving at all > > just being here, no moving at all > never fighting what presents > with open eyes and heart and mind > accepting all > > > Bill > > Hi Bill, yes.....again....your words remind me of a...meditation.... your vibration is " tuned " on the exactly right frequence... ....not too high.....not too much down..... to keep on .... " just being here, no moving at all > never fighting what presents > with open eyes and heart and mind > accepting all " nice words... you write: " I guess I don't see anything standing out as > substantially real " ....like dreams are real and unreal...kind of....at same time it look sometimes like being awake in a dream.... means, being aware of dreaming.....life....whenever one " look " at life......with a quite mind..... but depending the " mood " of this " quite " mind.....the frequences..... the other " waves " disappear.....when the " individual-mind " dissolves.... in a thoughtless ocean.....non-moving ocean..... it feels like ...there is no more " world " ... (sitting on cloud 7)... you write: I know it's not easy, and I know it is not difficult > As Krishnamurti would say, it is *arduous* > > Coming back again and again and again and again > to what immediately presents > > Just that > > Is that " moving up " ? > If so, OK then " ....i think that you have all kind of possible frequences under control.....you know all the ones....which are Not....the right ones..... i still need to " dive " deep....again....and again.....into this non- moving ocean......to the place.....where are " no others " ..... encluded the dissolvation of the dream....of being " Marc " ..... then....i could meet you for " real " " here " Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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