Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > the mirror Itself.....is what let appear all This......but it is Not > > all This..... > > > > Self....and Non Self..... > > > > therefore.....i choose to give up my limited self.....this limited > > body-mind-intellect .... " who " is only a reflection of Self.... > > > > and no-thing else > > >>>> > > > > again... very lucid Marc... > > > > the mirror metaphor you use is very interesting > > > > I don't consider there to be a mirror, only what-is... > > but I see a sense in what you are saying as well > > > > and I see neither Self, nor Non Self > > > > I guess I don't see anything standing out as > > substantially real > > > > but I seem to understand what you say > > > > > i don't think that it is such easy..... > > > > > > therefore....in my words about Self...and so also about Non- > Self.... > > > i try to explain thats it's worth still....to keep on moving > up.... > > > > I know it's not easy, and I know it is not difficult > > As Krishnamurti would say, it is *arduous* > > > > Coming back again and again and again and again > > to what immediately presents > > > > Just that > > > > Is that " moving up " ? > > If so, OK then > > > > but more it seems not moving at all > > > > just being here, no moving at all > > never fighting what presents > > with open eyes and heart and mind > > accepting all > > > > > > Bill > > > > > Hi Bill, > > yes.....again....your words remind me of a...meditation.... > your vibration is " tuned " on the exactly right frequence... > > ...not too high.....not too much down..... > > to keep on .... > " just being here, no moving at all > > never fighting what presents > > with open eyes and heart and mind > > accepting all " > > nice words... > > you write: > " > I guess I don't see anything standing out as > > substantially real " > > ...like dreams are real and unreal...kind of....at same time > > it look sometimes like being awake in a dream.... > means, being aware of dreaming.....life....whenever one " look " at > life......with a quite mind..... > but depending the " mood " of this " quite " mind.....the frequences..... > the other " waves " disappear.....when the " individual-mind " > dissolves.... > in a thoughtless ocean.....non-moving ocean..... > > it feels like ...there is no more " world " ... > > (sitting on cloud 7)... > > you write: > > I know it's not easy, and I know it is not difficult > > As Krishnamurti would say, it is *arduous* > > > > Coming back again and again and again and again > > to what immediately presents > > > > Just that > > > > Is that " moving up " ? > > If so, OK then " > > ...i think that you have all kind of possible frequences under > control.....you know all the ones....which are Not....the right > ones..... > > i still need to " dive " deep....again....and again.....into this non- > moving ocean......to the place.....where are " no others " ..... > > encluded the dissolvation of the dream....of being " Marc " ..... > > then....i could meet you for " real " > > " here " > > Marc > >>> there is no control it is no-control the awkward moment that confronts us the odd feeling of discomfort that seems not " it " is It making no choice making no effort if " being Marc should appear " so *be* it it is not the being Marc that is a problem it is the believing the being Marc and the believing the being Marc dissolves when no effort to change it is as if when no effort the extra bandwidth (that had been put to the effort) reveals lucid glimpses... I don't know but when *all* the bandwidth is not engaged so clear! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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