Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > the mirror Itself.....is what let appear all This......but it > is Not > > > > all This..... > > > > > > > > Self....and Non Self..... > > > > > > > > therefore.....i choose to give up my limited self.....this > limited > > > > body-mind-intellect .... " who " is only a reflection of Self.... > > > > > > > > and no-thing else > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > again... very lucid Marc... > > > > > > > > the mirror metaphor you use is very interesting > > > > > > > > I don't consider there to be a mirror, only what-is... > > > > but I see a sense in what you are saying as well > > > > > > > > and I see neither Self, nor Non Self > > > > > > > > I guess I don't see anything standing out as > > > > substantially real > > > > > > > > but I seem to understand what you say > > > > > > > > > i don't think that it is such easy..... > > > > > > > > > > therefore....in my words about Self...and so also about Non- > > > Self.... > > > > > i try to explain thats it's worth still....to keep on moving > > > up.... > > > > > > > > I know it's not easy, and I know it is not difficult > > > > As Krishnamurti would say, it is *arduous* > > > > > > > > Coming back again and again and again and again > > > > to what immediately presents > > > > > > > > Just that > > > > > > > > Is that " moving up " ? > > > > If so, OK then > > > > > > > > but more it seems not moving at all > > > > > > > > just being here, no moving at all > > > > never fighting what presents > > > > with open eyes and heart and mind > > > > accepting all > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > yes.....again....your words remind me of a...meditation.... > > > your vibration is " tuned " on the exactly right frequence... > > > > > > ...not too high.....not too much down..... > > > > > > to keep on .... > > > " just being here, no moving at all > > > > never fighting what presents > > > > with open eyes and heart and mind > > > > accepting all " > > > > > > nice words... > > > > > > you write: > > > " > > > I guess I don't see anything standing out as > > > > substantially real " > > > > > > ...like dreams are real and unreal...kind of....at same time > > > > > > it look sometimes like being awake in a dream.... > > > means, being aware of dreaming.....life....whenever one " look " at > > > life......with a quite mind..... > > > but depending the " mood " of this " quite " mind.....the > frequences..... > > > the other " waves " disappear.....when the " individual-mind " > > > dissolves.... > > > in a thoughtless ocean.....non-moving ocean..... > > > > > > it feels like ...there is no more " world " ... > > > > > > (sitting on cloud 7)... > > > > > > you write: > > > > > > I know it's not easy, and I know it is not difficult > > > > As Krishnamurti would say, it is *arduous* > > > > > > > > Coming back again and again and again and again > > > > to what immediately presents > > > > > > > > Just that > > > > > > > > Is that " moving up " ? > > > > If so, OK then " > > > > > > ...i think that you have all kind of possible frequences under > > > control.....you know all the ones....which are Not....the right > > > ones..... > > > > > > i still need to " dive " deep....again....and again.....into this > non- > > > moving ocean......to the place.....where are " no others " ..... > > > > > > encluded the dissolvation of the dream....of being " Marc " ..... > > > > > > then....i could meet you for " real " > > > > > > " here " > > > > > > Marc > > > > > >>> > > > > there is no control > > > > it is no-control > > > > the awkward moment that confronts us > > the odd feeling of discomfort > > that seems not " it " > > is It > > > > making no choice > > making no effort > > > > if " being Marc should appear " > > so *be* it > > > > it is not the being Marc that is a problem > > it is the believing the being Marc > > > > and the believing the being Marc > > dissolves > > when no effort to change > > > > it is as if when no effort > > the extra bandwidth (that had been put to the effort) > > reveals lucid glimpses... I don't know > > > > but when *all* the bandwidth is not engaged > > > > so clear! > > > > > > Bill > > Hi Bill, > > yes....nothing need to be under control...... > one need to let go....everything......whatever....however.... > flowing as free as the wind..... > > the world is the world...... > and now that we know how the world Is..... > the game of " life " can be " played " ..... > at every moment of time..... > in every breathe.... > freely.... > detached... > without worries..... > > then....everything Is.....fine.... > > Marc Ps: everything Is fine.....even if some very high intellects still don't " know " ....and never will know......why.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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