Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising of a thought in the infinite consciousness, which gave rise to the limited finite individual consciousness. When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and became tainted. as it were, from thought, the thinking faculty arose and, with it, the mind thought of the universe. (Vasistha's Yoga) This is the 'tiniest of pin pricks' of which Nisargadatta speaks. The tiniest of thoughts...............and the curtain opens. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain In The Beginning In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising of a thought in the infinite consciousness, Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal perception? How do it do dat? When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and became tainted. Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life is a mistake? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > In The Beginning > > > > > > In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising of a > thought in the > infinite consciousness, > > > Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal > perception? How do it do dat? > > It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal cortex, that creates the secondary overlay reality. This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the dream of separation that the Buddha called suffering. > > When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and became > tainted. > > > > > Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life is a > mistake? > > Phil > Life is not a mistake. The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a painful misunderstanding that has accumulated momentum. It is a mass hypnosis. But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > In The Beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising of a > > thought in the > > infinite consciousness, > > > > > > Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal > > perception? How do it do dat? > > > > > > It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal cortex, that creates the > secondary overlay reality. > > This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the dream of separation that the > Buddha called suffering. > > > > > > > When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and became > > tainted. > > > > > > > > > > Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life is a > > mistake? > > > > Phil > > > > Life is not a mistake. > > The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a painful misunderstanding that > has accumulated momentum. > > It is a mass hypnosis. > > But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. toombaru the universe is cleaning up a " hypnosis " .....means, something which is fiction only?..... why so?....and " how " ?.....and " when " ?....and " where " .....?....and by " whom " ......? i think the universe is universe....with all possible " words " and " concepts " .....or non-concepts....or " whatever " .....encluded therefore it Is universe....and not the holy ghost only few thoughts Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > In The Beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > > > > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the > arising of a > > > thought in the > > > infinite consciousness, > > > > > > > > > Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or > temporal > > > perception? How do it do dat? > > > > > > > > > > It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal > cortex, that creates the > > secondary overlay reality. > > > > This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the > dream of separation that the > > Buddha called suffering. > > > > > > > > > > > > When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent > state and became > > > tainted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a > mistake? Life is a > > > mistake? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > Life is not a mistake. > > > > The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a > painful misunderstanding that > > has accumulated momentum. > > > > It is a mass hypnosis. > > > > But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > the universe is cleaning up a " hypnosis " .....means, something which > is fiction only?..... > > why so?....and " how " ?.....and " when " ?....and " where " .....?....and > by " whom " ......? > > i think the universe is universe....with all possible " words " > and " concepts " .....or non-concepts....or " whatever " .....encluded > > therefore it Is universe....and not the holy ghost > > only few thoughts > mmm! only few thoughts? or are you secretely trying to create your own universe? however, too much question for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard > Time, > > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > In The Beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > > > > > > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but > the > > arising of a > > > > thought in the > > > > infinite consciousness, > > > > > > > > > > > > Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or > > temporal > > > > perception? How do it do dat? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human > frontal > > cortex, that creates the > > > secondary overlay reality. > > > > > > This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the > > dream of separation that the > > > Buddha called suffering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent > > state and became > > > > tainted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a > > mistake? Life is a > > > > mistake? > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > Life is not a mistake. > > > > > > The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a > > painful misunderstanding that > > > has accumulated momentum. > > > > > > It is a mass hypnosis. > > > > > > But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > the universe is cleaning up a " hypnosis " .....means, something which > > is fiction only?..... > > > > why so?....and " how " ?.....and " when " ?....and " where " .....?....and > > by " whom " ......? > > > > i think the universe is universe....with all possible " words " > > and " concepts " .....or non-concepts....or " whatever " .....encluded > > > > therefore it Is universe....and not the holy ghost > > > > only few thoughts > > > > > mmm! only few thoughts? > or are you secretely trying to create your own universe? > however, too much question for me. lol.... yes, sure.....i'm trying to create an universe.....in which i don't need to answer you... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 > > > > > > the universe is cleaning up a " hypnosis " .....means, something > which > > > is fiction only?..... > > > > > > why so?....and " how " ?.....and " when " ?....and " where " .....?....and > > > by " whom " ......? > > > > > > i think the universe is universe....with all possible " words " > > > and " concepts " .....or non-concepts....or " whatever " .....encluded > > > > > > therefore it Is universe....and not the holy ghost > > > > > > only few thoughts > > > > > > > > > mmm! only few thoughts? > > or are you secretely trying to create your own universe? > > however, too much question for me. > > lol.... > > yes, sure.....i'm trying to create an universe.....in which i don't > need to answer you... > > > > Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 In a message dated 2/15/2006 8:20:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: In The Beginning Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > In The Beginning > > > > > >T: In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising of a > thought in the > infinite consciousness, > > >P: Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal > perception? How do it do dat? > > T: It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal cortex, that creates the secondary overlay reality. This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the dream of separation that the Buddha called suffering. P: Well, okay, fine ,but, getting back to the question, consciousness does not think to cause perception any more than you flap your arms to cause a dream of flying. Thinking IS perception of the world of appearance. Consciousness must identify with the dream, wherein it has the apparent ability to think. >T: When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and became > tainted. > > > > > P: Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life is a > mistake? > > Phil > T: Life is not a mistake. The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a painful misunderstanding that has accumulated momentum. It is a mass hypnosis. But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. P: What is the difference between a mistake and a painful misunderstanding? If we imagine that God has a purpose in all this, it is to experience. Experience requires an experiencer and an experience. IOW, separation is required for experience to occur. Separation defines that it will be an experience of lack, and therefore suffering. This is the nature of experience. There is no mistake and no misunderstanding. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/15/2006 8:20:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > Re: In The Beginning > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > In The Beginning > > > > > > > > > > > >T: In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising > of a > > thought in the > > infinite consciousness, > > > > > >P: Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal > > perception? How do it do dat? > > > > > > T: It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal > cortex, that creates the > secondary overlay reality. > > This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the dream of > separation that the > Buddha called suffering. > > > > > > P: Well, okay, fine ,but, getting back to the question, consciousness does > not think to cause perception any more than you flap your arms to cause a > dream of flying. Thinking IS perception of the world of appearance. Consciousness > must identify with the dream, wherein it has the apparent ability to think. >T: When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and > became > > tainted. > > > > > > > > > > P: Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life > is a > > mistake? > > > > Phil > > > > T: Life is not a mistake. > > The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a painful > misunderstanding that > has accumulated momentum. > > It is a mass hypnosis. > > But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. > > > > P: What is the difference between a mistake and a painful misunderstanding? > If we imagine that God has a purpose in all this, it is to experience. > Experience requires an experiencer and an experience. IOW, separation is required > for experience to occur. Separation defines that it will be an experience of > lack, and therefore suffering. This is the nature of experience. There is no > mistake and no misunderstanding. > > Phil ********* BE YOU TEA FULL " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/15/2006 8:20:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > Re: In The Beginning > > > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > In The Beginning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >T: In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > > > > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising > > of a > > > thought in the > > > infinite consciousness, > > > > > > > > >P: Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal > > > perception? How do it do dat? > > > > > > > > > > T: It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal > > cortex, that creates the > > secondary overlay reality. > > > > This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the dream of > > separation that the > > Buddha called suffering. > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Well, okay, fine ,but, getting back to the question, consciousness does > > not think to cause perception any more than you flap your arms to cause a > > dream of flying. Thinking IS perception of the world of appearance. Consciousness > > must identify with the dream, wherein it has the apparent ability to think. The answer lies deeper then the the attempt to solve it with language. The question......all questions.....arise within the conceptual arena. The concepts themselves are mistaken for reality.......No one knows what 'consciousness', 'thought', 'perception' is ....let alone what the relationship of these ideations minht have with each other. The problem is conceptual thought itself. The attempt to think one's self through this labyrinth of confusion is like attempting to wash blood away with blood. > > > > >T: When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and > > became > > > tainted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life > > is a > > > mistake? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > T: Life is not a mistake. > > > > The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a painful > > misunderstanding that > > has accumulated momentum. > > > > It is a mass hypnosis. > > > > But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. > > > > > > > > P: What is the difference between a mistake and a painful misunderstanding? 'Mistake' assumes a volitional entity and that a given outcome could have been different. The confusion that results from thought attempting to unravel knots that do not exist....is a painful misunderstanding. Much like mistaking a rope for a snake. > > If we imagine that God has a purpose in all this, That is only another egoic imagination. >it is to experience. There in no reason to assume that. > > > Experience requires an experiencer and an experience. IOW, separation is required > > for experience to occur. Separation defines that it will be an experience of > > lack, and therefore suffering. This is the nature of experience. There is no > > mistake and no misunderstanding. > > > > Phil > > > Once again......thought is looking within its bucket of concepts for answers to meaningless questions. It will continue to do this until the folly of its effort is seen. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 In a message dated 2/16/2006 12:18:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: In The Beginning Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/15/2006 8:20:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > Re: In The Beginning > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:32:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > In The Beginning > > > > > > > > > > > >T: In truth, there is no creation, and no division at all. > > > > The seed and the sole cause of this world appearance is but the arising > of a > > thought in the > > infinite consciousness, > > > > > >P: Infinite consciousness thinks? Without a brain or memory or temporal > > perception? How do it do dat? > > > > > > T: It is conceptual thought, that appears unique to the human frontal > cortex, that creates the > secondary overlay reality. > > This is the illusory prison...with its illusory prisoner.....the dream of > separation that the > Buddha called suffering. > > > > > > P: Well, okay, fine ,but, getting back to the question, consciousness does > not think to cause perception any more than you flap your arms to cause a > dream of flying. Thinking IS perception of the world of appearance. Consciousness > must identify with the dream, wherein it has the apparent ability to think. The answer lies deeper the the attempt to solve it with language. The question......all questions.....arise within the conceptual arena. The concepts themselves are mistaken for reality.......No one knows what 'consciousness', 'thought', 'perception' is ....let alone what the relationship of these ideations minht have with each other. The problem is conceptual thought itself. The attempt to think one's self through this labyrinth of confusion is like attempting to wash blood away with blood. >T: When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state and > became > > tainted. > > > > > > > > > > P: Tainted? So, the experiential expression of divinity is a mistake? Life > is a > > mistake? > > > > Phil > > > > T: Life is not a mistake. > > The illusion of a separate self is not a mistake..........It is a painful > misunderstanding that > has accumulated momentum. > > It is a mass hypnosis. > > But not to worry.........The universe is self cleaning. > > > > P: What is the difference between a mistake and a painful misunderstanding? 'Mistake' assumes a volitional entity and that a given outcome could have been different. The confusion that results from thought attempting to unravel knots that do not exist....is a painful misunderstanding. > If we imagine that God has a purpose in all this, That is only another egoic imagination. >it is to experience. There in no reason to assume that. > Experience requires an experiencer and an experience. IOW, separation is required > for experience to occur. Separation defines that it will be an experience of > lack, and therefore suffering. This is the nature of experience. There is no > mistake and no misunderstanding. > > Phil > Once again......thought is looking within its bucket of concepts for answers to meaningless questions. It will continue to do this until the folly of its effort is seen. toombaru Tis you who presented the concepts to begin with. I simply attempted to expand some very limiting boundaries created by those concepts. Now, you would tell me that concepts are meaningless folly. The folly is in assigning meaning to them whilst they be your concepts but identifying them as folly when they are not yours. Concepts are not a problem. All enlightened teachers teach using concepts. The problem is when we become attached to those concepts rather than work toward their dissolution. Exploring concepts does have purpose; it can be done to expose our self deception and our attachments. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 > > > Tis you who presented the concepts to begin with. I simply attempted to > expand some very limiting boundaries created by those concepts. Now, you would > tell me that concepts are meaningless folly. The folly is in assigning meaning > to them whilst they be your concepts but identifying them as folly when they > are not yours. > > Concepts are not a problem. All enlightened teachers teach using concepts. > The problem is when we become attached to those concepts rather than work > toward their dissolution. Exploring concepts does have purpose; it can be done to > expose our self deception and our attachments. > > Phil > > > > > Indeed.....You are right. Thorns to remove thorns....etc I enter these exchanges because they seem to stimulate an ever deepening understnding. The thoughts vibrate together....harmonic resonance warms the heart..........windows open and.....out there just beyond the known.......a whole new pristine emptiness.......that I never saw. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 In a message dated 2/16/2006 3:36:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: In The Beginning > > > Tis you who presented the concepts to begin with. I simply attempted to > expand some very limiting boundaries created by those concepts. Now, you would > tell me that concepts are meaningless folly. The folly is in assigning meaning > to them whilst they be your concepts but identifying them as folly when they > are not yours. > > Concepts are not a problem. All enlightened teachers teach using concepts. > The problem is when we become attached to those concepts rather than work > toward their dissolution. Exploring concepts does have purpose; it can be done to > expose our self deception and our attachments. > > Phil > > > > > Indeed.....You are right. Thorns to remove thorns....etc I enter these exchanges because they seem to stimulate an ever deepening understnding. The thoughts vibrate together....harmonic resonance warms the heart..........windows open and.....out there just beyond the known.......a whole new pristine emptiness.......that I never saw. toombaru Yes, I jabber here for the same reason. I find that I'm rarely in such a mode that I can actually benefit directly from something somebody else says, but very often some words here will cause me to look within for clarity and it's very often found there. Then I seamlessly post about it, as though I've always known it. Hehe. For me, it's difficult to find the inspiration to do that on my own, but I don't intend to resists the exploration. It will stop when it's done. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:37:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,Toomba writes > infinite consciousness, which gave rise to the limited finite > individual consciousness. > > > >When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state > and became tainted. > L.E: Consciousness has never become " tainted. " There is nothning wrong with what is just as it is. Your not accepting it is your alone. And it never moved from its quiescent state. That state exists right now and in its inner nature is still yet it gives rise to all that is. Larry Epston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:37:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,Toomba writes > > > infinite consciousness, which gave rise to the limited finite > > individual consciousness. > > > > > >When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state > > and became tainted. > > > L.E: Consciousness has never become " tainted. " There is nothning wrong with > what is just as it is. Your not accepting it is your alone. And it never > moved from its quiescent state. That state exists right now and in its inner > nature is still yet it gives rise to all that is. > > Larry Epston If that is the case.......why is it necessary for consciousness to remind itself of that? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 In a message dated 2/18/2006 10:13:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, lastrain writes: > -- In Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > >In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:37:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,Toomba > writes > > > >>infinite consciousness, which gave rise to the limited finite > >>individual consciousness. > >>> > >>>When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state > >>and became tainted. > >> > >L.E: Consciousness has never become " tainted. " There is nothning wrong > with > >what is just as it is. Your not accepting it is your alone. And it never > >moved from its quiescent state. That state exists right now and in its > inner > >nature is still yet it gives rise to all that is. > > > >Larry Epston > > > > > If that is the case.......why is it necessary for consciousness to remind > itself of that? > > > toombaru L.E: " Reminds itself? " How can it forget itself? I know the stories, but they are not true. Just Eastern cultural myths. Do you know this, or did you read it somewhere? Amd. there is no blank screen, no relative movie that doesn't exist, no dream. Life is creating what is, as it is, in this here and now. If you ever experience the emptiness of space or nothingness, remember that this everyday reality is what exists within it. Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 In a message dated 2/19/2006 2:53:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: In The Beginning Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/14/2006 11:37:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,Toomba writes > > > infinite consciousness, which gave rise to the limited finite > > individual consciousness. > > > > > >When consciousness thus moved away from its utter quiescent state > > and became tainted. > > > L.E: Consciousness has never become " tainted. " There is nothning wrong with > what is just as it is. Your not accepting it is your alone. And it never > moved from its quiescent state. That state exists right now and in its inner > nature is still yet it gives rise to all that is. > > Larry Epston If that is the case.......why is it necessary for consciousness to remind itself of that? toombaru There's actually a good question here someplace. If consciousness never moved from it's quiescent state, what's up with all these humans running around like chickens with their heads cut off? It would be convenient to separate Consciousness from human consciousness, but we can't do that. Consciousness is all there is, and everything arises from, and 'occurs' within consciousness. We can dismiss the activity as unreal in a physical sense, but it remains as 'activity' within consciousness, which would seem to deny a quiescent, still state. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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