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Dear Bill and Marc and all...

Some of those last posts about being totally free,

about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

disconnection of everything............

hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able

to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

and my most simple path toward final unity.

I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

hard to stay put with it.

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " with an " OM " , which is a

total surrender of oneself to that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the

Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I

AM-ness " is " OM "

 

Love,

 

n~OM~e

 

OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear Bill and Marc and all...

Some of those last posts about being totally free,

about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

disconnection of everything............

hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able

to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

and my most simple path toward final unity.

I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

hard to stay put with it.

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi OM-man,

 

Have you already done your daily OM today ?

 

And have you reached that promised 'Higher Consciousness' already or

are you still in good hope that one day you will ?

 

And have you reached already liberation and freedom and peace and

what else of beautiful goals your daily day-dreaming is promising ?

 

There are millions of people like you arround babbling the same

nonsense without realizing its all day-dreams, thought-games.

 

Why don't you feel ashamed offering innocent people such baloney ?

 

Werner

 

 

Nisargadatta , bounthanom munxayaphom

<nomemxp wrote:

>

> Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " with an " OM " ,

which is a total surrender of oneself to that Higher Consciousness,

and being one with the Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I AM-

nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM "

>

> Love,

>

> n~OM~e

>

> OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear Bill and Marc and

all...

> Some of those last posts about being totally free,

> about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

> disconnection of everything............

> hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

> I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able

> to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

> and my most simple path toward final unity.

> I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

> stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

> bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

> hard to stay put with it.

> Patricia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another

tool invented by myself : I AM by OM.

I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a

last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to

watch at the moment, it is also a link between two

worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it

because it is in use, for whatever reason.

Good insights to you my friend,

Patricia

--- bounthanom munxayaphom <nomemxp a

écrit :

 

 

 

Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM "

with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to

that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the

Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I

AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM "

 

Love,

 

n~OM~e

 

OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear

Bill and Marc and all...

Some of those last posts about being totally free,

about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

disconnection of everything............

hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be

able

to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

and my most simple path toward final unity.

I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

hard to stay put with it.

Patricia

..................................................

Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM "

with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to

that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the

Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I

AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM "

 

Love,

 

n~OM~e

.......................................................

it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another

tool invented by myself : I AM by OM.

I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a

last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to

watch at the moment, it is also a link between two

worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it

because it is in use, for whatever reason.

Most of you seem to have the power to end everything.

I only have the power to end some of the false,

whatever can be perceived at the moment. The I AM

sense is the one that does it actually.

There are days of clarity, but they aren`t

self-induced. It just happens. And today I am

trudging, but hanging on solidely to I AM.

Good insights to you my friend,

Patricia

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

> Dear Bill and Marc and all...

> Some of those last posts about being totally free,

> about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

> disconnection of everything............

> hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

> I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able

> to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

> and my most simple path toward final unity.

> I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

> stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

> bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

> hard to stay put with it.

> Patricia

 

*********

Hey, Phil! Wake up, buddy! We gotta' clean this place up a little.

Patricia's on her way over to the Abyss....and she's HOT! Here.

Take a look through the binoculars. She's over there on the

hillpath. Woo-hoo!

 

" Silver "

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

> it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another

> tool invented by myself : I AM by OM.

> I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a

> last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to

> watch at the moment, it is also a link between two

> worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it

> because it is in use, for whatever reason.

> Good insights to you my friend,

> Patricia

 

*******

 

Oh, man! Hurry up, Phil. She's almost here....

 

" Silver "

 

 

 

> --- bounthanom munxayaphom <nomemxp a

> écrit :

>

>

>

> Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM "

> with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to

> that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the

> Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I

> AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM "

>

> Love,

>

> n~OM~e

>

> OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear

> Bill and Marc and all...

> Some of those last posts about being totally free,

> about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

> disconnection of everything............

> hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

> I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be

> able

> to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

> and my most simple path toward final unity.

> I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

> stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

> bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

> hard to stay put with it.

> Patricia

> ..................................................

> Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM "

> with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to

> that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the

> Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I

> AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM "

>

> Love,

>

> n~OM~e

> ......................................................

> it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another

> tool invented by myself : I AM by OM.

> I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a

> last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to

> watch at the moment, it is also a link between two

> worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it

> because it is in use, for whatever reason.

> Most of you seem to have the power to end everything.

> I only have the power to end some of the false,

> whatever can be perceived at the moment. The I AM

> sense is the one that does it actually.

> There are days of clarity, but they aren`t

> self-induced. It just happens. And today I am

> trudging, but hanging on solidely to I AM.

> Good insights to you my friend,

> Patricia

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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> and go to Edit My Groups:

>

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Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige

wrote:

>

> Dear Bill and Marc and all...

> Some of those last posts about being totally free,

> about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

> disconnection of everything............

> hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

> I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able

> to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

> and my most simple path toward final unity.

> I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

> stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

> bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

> hard to stay put with it.

> Patricia

 

Hi Patricia,

 

yes.....i think it's not very " effective " to talk about " I

am....being an illusion....or unreal....or whatever "

 

i mean....maybe there are a few ones " who " are " behind " ego-

mind...... " behind " this seperations that an ego-

mind " see " ....and " create " .....

those ones could say... " I am...everything " ...... " I am ....nothing " ....

without any contradictions....(inside) themSelf....

 

i understand that " I Am " is an ancre.....kind of protection....kind

of safe place to " be " ....

 

for some duration of time.....

 

i think that you shouldn't worry too much about such specific

discussions ....about such " details and nuances " .....which are very

important for some people.....and very unimportant for some others....

 

i for myself didn't participate in the " I Am " discussion.....

didn't feel to participate.....

 

the more talk about such " statements " ....the more confusion is

rising......everybody put the big Dossier of her/his concepts on the

table....and then " Maya " goes on......to flow.....in between the

changeless, infinite, formless.....Self....

 

the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time.....

 

after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " .....

 

because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and

liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and

whatever....worries....

 

wish a nice day

 

Marc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Dear Bill and Marc and all...

> Some of those last posts about being totally free,

> about <I am > being an illusion about a complete

> disconnection of everything............

> hhmmmmmmmmmmm!!

> I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able

> to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding

> and my most simple path toward final unity.

> I cannot discard that so easily because it would be

> stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only

> bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very

> hard to stay put with it.

> Patricia

>>>>

 

There is no need to discard that.

And it does serve as an anchor.

 

Realizing the " I am " one is able to

see that any *qualifications* of " I am "

are false. Hence, I am beautiful, I am

not beautiful, I am kind, I am unkind,

etc. All those qualifications come to

be seen as false. Only the " I am " is

real.

 

As the senses of identity wrapped up in

the many qualifications are eliminated,

stripped away, there is a great simplicity

that establishes itself. Eventually one

comes to " abide in " the simplicity, the

*ease* of not-needing-to-know.

 

And when the ease of not-needing-to-know

is deeply established the sense of " I am "

will drop away of itself.

 

 

 

Bill

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the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time.....

 

after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " .....

 

because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and

liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and

whatever....worries....

 

wish a nice day

 

Marc

 

>>>>>>>>>>>

 

beautifully put...

 

Bill

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Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr

wrote:

>

> Hi OM-man,

>

> Have you already done your daily OM today ?

>

> And have you reached that promised 'Higher Consciousness' already

or

> are you still in good hope that one day you will ?

>

> And have you reached already liberation and freedom and peace and

> what else of beautiful goals your daily day-dreaming is promising ?

>

> There are millions of people like you arround babbling the same

> nonsense without realizing its all day-dreams, thought-games.

>

> Why don't you feel ashamed offering innocent people such baloney ?

>

> Werner

 

 

 

Forgive him for he doesn´t know what he´s doing ;-)

 

Len

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Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote:

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> the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time.....

>

> after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " .....

>

> because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and

> liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and

> whatever....worries....

>

> wish a nice day

>

> Marc

 

 

Is a shadow liberated by the sun?

 

Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water there?

 

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

> >

> > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time.....

> >

> > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " .....

> >

> > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and

> > liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and

> > whatever....worries....

> >

> > wish a nice day

> >

> > Marc

>

>

> Is a shadow liberated by the sun?

>

> Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water

there?

>

>

> toombaru

 

 

 

....who is this " shadow " .... " toombaru " ....?

 

:)

 

Marc

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Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote:

> > >

> > > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time.....

> > >

> > > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " .....

> > >

> > > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and

> > > liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and

> > > whatever....worries....

> > >

> > > wish a nice day

> > >

> > > Marc

> >

> >

> > Is a shadow liberated by the sun?

> >

> > Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water

> there?

> >

> >

> > toombaru

>

>

>

> ...who is this " shadow " .... " toombaru " ....?

>

> :)

>

> Marc

>

 

 

The illusion of individual self.....the sense of separation.

 

toombaru

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Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain

wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 "

<dennis_travis33@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some

time.....

> > > >

> > > > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " .....

> > > >

> > > > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are

free.....and

> > > > liberated ....from

words....reading....writing....thinking.....and

> > > > whatever....worries....

> > > >

> > > > wish a nice day

> > > >

> > > > Marc

> > >

> > >

> > > Is a shadow liberated by the sun?

> > >

> > > Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water

> > there?

> > >

> > >

> > > toombaru

> >

> >

> >

> > ...who is this " shadow " .... " toombaru " ....?

> >

> > :)

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

>

> The illusion of individual self.....the sense of separation.

>

> toombaru

 

 

" whoever " you are.....

 

wish a good day.....

 

enjoy the sunshine.... " however " you like to...

 

Marc

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