Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Dear Bill and Marc and all... Some of those last posts about being totally free, about <I am > being an illusion about a complete disconnection of everything............ hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding and my most simple path toward final unity. I cannot discard that so easily because it would be stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very hard to stay put with it. Patricia _________________________ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM " Love, n~OM~e OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear Bill and Marc and all... Some of those last posts about being totally free, about <I am > being an illusion about a complete disconnection of everything............ hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding and my most simple path toward final unity. I cannot discard that so easily because it would be stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very hard to stay put with it. Patricia _________________________ Nouveau : t�l�phonez moins cher avec Messenger ! D�couvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. T�l�chargez sur http://fr.messenger. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hi OM-man, Have you already done your daily OM today ? And have you reached that promised 'Higher Consciousness' already or are you still in good hope that one day you will ? And have you reached already liberation and freedom and peace and what else of beautiful goals your daily day-dreaming is promising ? There are millions of people like you arround babbling the same nonsense without realizing its all day-dreams, thought-games. Why don't you feel ashamed offering innocent people such baloney ? Werner Nisargadatta , bounthanom munxayaphom <nomemxp wrote: > > Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I AM- nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM " > > Love, > > n~OM~e > > OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear Bill and Marc and all... > Some of those last posts about being totally free, > about <I am > being an illusion about a complete > disconnection of everything............ > hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! > I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able > to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding > and my most simple path toward final unity. > I cannot discard that so easily because it would be > stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only > bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very > hard to stay put with it. > Patricia > > > > > > > > ____________________ _____ > Nouveau : t�l�phonez moins cher avec Messenger ! D�couvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > T�l�chargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another tool invented by myself : I AM by OM. I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to watch at the moment, it is also a link between two worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it because it is in use, for whatever reason. Good insights to you my friend, Patricia --- bounthanom munxayaphom <nomemxp a écrit : Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM " Love, n~OM~e OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear Bill and Marc and all... Some of those last posts about being totally free, about <I am > being an illusion about a complete disconnection of everything............ hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding and my most simple path toward final unity. I cannot discard that so easily because it would be stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very hard to stay put with it. Patricia .................................................. Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM " Love, n~OM~e ....................................................... it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another tool invented by myself : I AM by OM. I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to watch at the moment, it is also a link between two worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it because it is in use, for whatever reason. Most of you seem to have the power to end everything. I only have the power to end some of the false, whatever can be perceived at the moment. The I AM sense is the one that does it actually. There are days of clarity, but they aren`t self-induced. It just happens. And today I am trudging, but hanging on solidely to I AM. Good insights to you my friend, Patricia _________________________ Nouveau : t�l�phonez moins cher avec Messenger ! D�couvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. T�l�chargez sur http://fr.messenger. ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > Dear Bill and Marc and all... > Some of those last posts about being totally free, > about <I am > being an illusion about a complete > disconnection of everything............ > hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! > I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able > to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding > and my most simple path toward final unity. > I cannot discard that so easily because it would be > stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only > bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very > hard to stay put with it. > Patricia ********* Hey, Phil! Wake up, buddy! We gotta' clean this place up a little. Patricia's on her way over to the Abyss....and she's HOT! Here. Take a look through the binoculars. She's over there on the hillpath. Woo-hoo! " Silver " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another > tool invented by myself : I AM by OM. > I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a > last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to > watch at the moment, it is also a link between two > worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it > because it is in use, for whatever reason. > Good insights to you my friend, > Patricia ******* Oh, man! Hurry up, Phil. She's almost here.... " Silver " > --- bounthanom munxayaphom <nomemxp a > écrit : > > > > Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " > with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to > that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the > Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I > AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM " > > Love, > > n~OM~e > > OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: Dear > Bill and Marc and all... > Some of those last posts about being totally free, > about <I am > being an illusion about a complete > disconnection of everything............ > hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! > I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be > able > to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding > and my most simple path toward final unity. > I cannot discard that so easily because it would be > stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only > bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very > hard to stay put with it. > Patricia > .................................................. > Just a suggestion, what about a replacement of " I AM " > with an " OM " , which is a total surrender of oneself to > that Higher Consciousness, and being one with the > Absolute, instead of holding on to the " I > AM-nes " ...!!! The final of " I AM-ness " is " OM " > > Love, > > n~OM~e > ...................................................... > it isn`t an option for me to replace a tool by another > tool invented by myself : I AM by OM. > I know well that I AM is a transitory state, kind of a > last curtain. But it is a very important curtain to > watch at the moment, it is also a link between two > worlds. And I don`t have the power to discard it > because it is in use, for whatever reason. > Most of you seem to have the power to end everything. > I only have the power to end some of the false, > whatever can be perceived at the moment. The I AM > sense is the one that does it actually. > There are days of clarity, but they aren`t > self-induced. It just happens. And today I am > trudging, but hanging on solidely to I AM. > Good insights to you my friend, > Patricia > > > > > > ____________________ _____ > > Nouveau : t�l�phonez moins cher avec > Messenger ! D�couvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour > appeler la France et l'international. > T�l�chargez sur http://fr.messenger. > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to > change your subscription, sign in with your ID > and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " > for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > Dear Bill and Marc and all... > Some of those last posts about being totally free, > about <I am > being an illusion about a complete > disconnection of everything............ > hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! > I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able > to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding > and my most simple path toward final unity. > I cannot discard that so easily because it would be > stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only > bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very > hard to stay put with it. > Patricia Hi Patricia, yes.....i think it's not very " effective " to talk about " I am....being an illusion....or unreal....or whatever " i mean....maybe there are a few ones " who " are " behind " ego- mind...... " behind " this seperations that an ego- mind " see " ....and " create " ..... those ones could say... " I am...everything " ...... " I am ....nothing " .... without any contradictions....(inside) themSelf.... i understand that " I Am " is an ancre.....kind of protection....kind of safe place to " be " .... for some duration of time..... i think that you shouldn't worry too much about such specific discussions ....about such " details and nuances " .....which are very important for some people.....and very unimportant for some others.... i for myself didn't participate in the " I Am " discussion..... didn't feel to participate..... the more talk about such " statements " ....the more confusion is rising......everybody put the big Dossier of her/his concepts on the table....and then " Maya " goes on......to flow.....in between the changeless, infinite, formless.....Self.... the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time..... after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " ..... because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and whatever....worries.... wish a nice day Marc > > > > > > > > ____________________ _____ > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 > Dear Bill and Marc and all... > Some of those last posts about being totally free, > about <I am > being an illusion about a complete > disconnection of everything............ > hhmmmmmmmmmmm!! > I AM is an ancre that I still greatly need, to be able > to stay one with it is my surrender, my understanding > and my most simple path toward final unity. > I cannot discard that so easily because it would be > stupid and false. The fact is that it is the only > bridge there is toeard oness, and it is already very > hard to stay put with it. > Patricia >>>> There is no need to discard that. And it does serve as an anchor. Realizing the " I am " one is able to see that any *qualifications* of " I am " are false. Hence, I am beautiful, I am not beautiful, I am kind, I am unkind, etc. All those qualifications come to be seen as false. Only the " I am " is real. As the senses of identity wrapped up in the many qualifications are eliminated, stripped away, there is a great simplicity that establishes itself. Eventually one comes to " abide in " the simplicity, the *ease* of not-needing-to-know. And when the ease of not-needing-to-know is deeply established the sense of " I am " will drop away of itself. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time..... after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " ..... because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and whatever....worries.... wish a nice day Marc >>>>>>>>>>> beautifully put... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > Hi OM-man, > > Have you already done your daily OM today ? > > And have you reached that promised 'Higher Consciousness' already or > are you still in good hope that one day you will ? > > And have you reached already liberation and freedom and peace and > what else of beautiful goals your daily day-dreaming is promising ? > > There are millions of people like you arround babbling the same > nonsense without realizing its all day-dreams, thought-games. > > Why don't you feel ashamed offering innocent people such baloney ? > > Werner Forgive him for he doesn´t know what he´s doing ;-) Len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn wrote: > > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time..... > > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " ..... > > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and > liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and > whatever....worries.... > > wish a nice day > > Marc Is a shadow liberated by the sun? Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water there? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time..... > > > > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " ..... > > > > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and > > liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and > > whatever....worries.... > > > > wish a nice day > > > > Marc > > > Is a shadow liberated by the sun? > > Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water there? > > > toombaru ....who is this " shadow " .... " toombaru " ....? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time..... > > > > > > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " ..... > > > > > > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and > > > liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and > > > whatever....worries.... > > > > > > wish a nice day > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Is a shadow liberated by the sun? > > > > Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water > there? > > > > > > toombaru > > > > ...who is this " shadow " .... " toombaru " ....? > > > > Marc > The illusion of individual self.....the sense of separation. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " billrishel " <illusyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > the process to " be " completely your Self.....take some time..... > > > > > > > > after a while.....you no more need any specific " ancre " ..... > > > > > > > > because you will have realized yourSelf.....and are free.....and > > > > liberated ....from words....reading....writing....thinking.....and > > > > whatever....worries.... > > > > > > > > wish a nice day > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Is a shadow liberated by the sun? > > > > > > Is a mirage freed....when it is realized that there is no water > > there? > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > ...who is this " shadow " .... " toombaru " ....? > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > The illusion of individual self.....the sense of separation. > > toombaru " whoever " you are..... wish a good day..... enjoy the sunshine.... " however " you like to... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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