Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 >>Ok. But, are dreams a bad thing? Are dreams a problem? No. Dreams are not necessarily bad thing! They are just unreal and fleeting! As long as their unreal and transitory nature is fully understood there is not much problem. In fact, some dreams can be quite nice and people often like to go back to sleep again in order to have that same dream because they enjoy those 'pleasant' dreams so much. The real problem occurs only when we get attached to our dreams and expect things from them that the dreams can not offer - reality and lasting fulfillment! As long as dreams are fully allowed to pass by, we remain unattached witness - sometimes witnessing the colors, vibrancy of dreams other times simply abiding at Total 'content-less' Peace! However, with attachments formed to dreams, their passing creates the pain and suffering! Even when these dreams haven't yet 'passed' the 'fear' of them not being some day creates pain and suffering that can be deemed unnecessary! Only time that dreams create a pain by itself - is - when it is nightmare*** and the dreamer identifies a character in that dream as " me " that it sees having these 'nightmare' experiences. Then too... the nightmare too passes and the perfect natural peace returns as the passing nature of *all* dreams is intrinsically understood. However, this natural journey back to peace and sanity gets obscured if there is a strong identification with the " me " character in the dream a resistance to 'what is seen'... as 'happening to that character'! It creates additional pain on top of what is already in place, it elongates and amplifies the pain and it also paves road to future 'manufactured' pain as the memories of 'what happened to " me " ' is lived over and over again! Further, it also creates a 'fear' of 'not ending up like this' again which becomes source of More pain! ------ ***The resistance and aversion to nightmares creates even deeper problems that block real growth and journey back to peace - as the real purpose of the *nightmares* is to 'wake' the self 'Out of the Dream'! [NNB] > > >>How does awakening impacts normal > living and responsibilities? > > Same way that 'waking up' impacts a... > dream! > > > >>But, waking up ends the dream. Do > you then, mean that awakening ends > 'living' and responsibilities? > > Your 'waking up' ends " your " dream! > > But, it ends it only for the time that > you 'stay awake'! > > You are free fall back to sleep and > 'dream' again! > > > >>Do you mean to say that awakening is > durational? > > No... but, your 'dreams' are... > 'durational'! > > You are free to 'identify' with the > dream and you are free to wake up 'out > of the dream'! > [...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 --- Arvind <adithya_comming a écrit : >>Ok. But, are dreams a bad thing? Are dreams a problem? No. Dreams are not necessarily bad thing! They are just unreal and fleeting! As long as their unreal and transitory nature is fully understood there is not much problem. In fact, some dreams can be quite nice and people often like to go back to sleep again in order to have that same dream because they enjoy those 'pleasant' dreams so much. The real problem occurs only when we get attached to our dreams and expect things from them that the dreams can not offer - reality and lasting fulfillment! As long as dreams are fully allowed to pass by, we remain unattached witness - sometimes witnessing the colors, vibrancy of dreams other times simply abiding at Total 'content-less' Peace! However, with attachments formed to dreams, their passing creates the pain and suffering! Even when these dreams haven't yet 'passed' the 'fear' of them not being some day creates pain and suffering that can be deemed unnecessary! Only time that dreams create a pain by itself - is - when it is nightmare*** and the dreamer identifies a character in that dream as " me " that it sees having these 'nightmare' experiences. Then too... the nightmare too passes and the perfect natural peace returns as the passing nature of *all* dreams is intrinsically understood. However, this natural journey back to peace and sanity gets obscured if there is a strong identification with the " me " character in the dream a resistance to 'what is seen'... as 'happening to that character'! It creates additional pain on top of what is already in place, it elongates and amplifies the pain and it also paves road to future 'manufactured' pain as the memories of 'what happened to " me " ' is lived over and over again! Further, it also creates a 'fear' of 'not ending up like this' again which becomes source of More pain! ------ ***The resistance and aversion to nightmares creates even deeper problems that block real growth and journey back to peace - as the real purpose of the *nightmares* is to 'wake' the self 'Out of the Dream'! [NNB] > > >>How does awakening impacts normal > living and responsibilities? > > Same way that 'waking up' impacts a... > dream! > > > >>But, waking up ends the dream. Do > you then, mean that awakening ends > 'living' and responsibilities? > > Your 'waking up' ends " your " dream! > > But, it ends it only for the time that > you 'stay awake'! > > You are free fall back to sleep and > 'dream' again! > > > >>Do you mean to say that awakening is > durational? > > No... but, your 'dreams' are... > 'durational'! > > You are free to 'identify' with the > dream and you are free to wake up 'out > of the dream'! > ............................................................................... Some dreams are also a way to clean up unconscious actions, a way to finish up unfinished business that occured in the day and wasn`t fully resolved..... [...] ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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