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>>Ok. But, are dreams a bad thing? Are

dreams a problem?

 

No. Dreams are not necessarily bad

thing! They are just unreal and fleeting!

 

 

As long as their unreal and transitory

nature is fully understood there is not

much problem.

 

 

In fact, some dreams can be quite nice

and people often like to go back to

sleep again in order to have that same

dream because they enjoy those

'pleasant' dreams so much.

 

 

The real problem occurs only when we

get attached to our dreams and expect

things from them that the dreams can

not offer - reality and lasting

fulfillment! As long as dreams are

fully allowed to pass by, we remain

unattached witness - sometimes

witnessing the colors, vibrancy of

dreams other times simply abiding at

Total 'content-less' Peace!

 

However, with attachments formed to

dreams, their passing creates the pain

and suffering! Even when these dreams

haven't yet 'passed' the 'fear' of them

not being some day creates pain and

suffering that can be deemed unnecessary!

 

 

Only time that dreams create a pain by

itself - is - when it is nightmare*** and

the dreamer identifies a character in

that dream as " me " that it sees having

these 'nightmare' experiences. Then

too... the nightmare too passes and the

perfect natural peace returns as the

passing nature of *all* dreams is

intrinsically understood.

 

 

However, this natural journey back to

peace and sanity gets obscured if there

is a strong identification with the

" me " character in the dream a

resistance to 'what is seen'... as

'happening to that character'! It

creates additional pain on top of what

is already in place, it elongates and

amplifies the pain and it also paves

road to future 'manufactured' pain as

the memories of 'what happened to " me " '

is lived over and over again! Further,

it also creates a 'fear' of 'not ending

up like this' again which becomes

source of More pain!

 

 

 

 

------

 

 

 

***The resistance and aversion to nightmares

creates even deeper problems that block real

growth and journey back to peace -

as the real purpose of the

*nightmares* is to 'wake' the self 'Out

of the Dream'!

 

 

 

 

[NNB]

 

 

 

>

> >>How does awakening impacts normal

> living and responsibilities?

>

> Same way that 'waking up' impacts a...

> dream!

>

>

> >>But, waking up ends the dream. Do

> you then, mean that awakening ends

> 'living' and responsibilities?

>

> Your 'waking up' ends " your " dream!

>

> But, it ends it only for the time that

> you 'stay awake'!

>

> You are free fall back to sleep and

> 'dream' again!

>

>

> >>Do you mean to say that awakening is

> durational?

>

> No... but, your 'dreams' are...

> 'durational'!

>

> You are free to 'identify' with the

> dream and you are free to wake up 'out

> of the dream'!

>

 

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--- Arvind <adithya_comming a écrit :

 

 

 

>>Ok. But, are dreams a bad thing? Are

dreams a problem?

 

No. Dreams are not necessarily bad

thing! They are just unreal and fleeting!

 

 

As long as their unreal and transitory

nature is fully understood there is not

much problem.

 

 

In fact, some dreams can be quite nice

and people often like to go back to

sleep again in order to have that same

dream because they enjoy those

'pleasant' dreams so much.

 

 

The real problem occurs only when we

get attached to our dreams and expect

things from them that the dreams can

not offer - reality and lasting

fulfillment! As long as dreams are

fully allowed to pass by, we remain

unattached witness - sometimes

witnessing the colors, vibrancy of

dreams other times simply abiding at

Total 'content-less' Peace!

 

However, with attachments formed to

dreams, their passing creates the pain

and suffering! Even when these dreams

haven't yet 'passed' the 'fear' of them

not being some day creates pain and

suffering that can be deemed unnecessary!

 

 

Only time that dreams create a pain by

itself - is - when it is nightmare*** and

the dreamer identifies a character in

that dream as " me " that it sees having

these 'nightmare' experiences. Then

too... the nightmare too passes and the

perfect natural peace returns as the

passing nature of *all* dreams is

intrinsically understood.

 

 

However, this natural journey back to

peace and sanity gets obscured if there

is a strong identification with the

" me " character in the dream a

resistance to 'what is seen'... as

'happening to that character'! It

creates additional pain on top of what

is already in place, it elongates and

amplifies the pain and it also paves

road to future 'manufactured' pain as

the memories of 'what happened to " me " '

is lived over and over again! Further,

it also creates a 'fear' of 'not ending

up like this' again which becomes

source of More pain!

 

 

 

 

------

 

 

 

***The resistance and aversion to nightmares

creates even deeper problems that block real

growth and journey back to peace -

as the real purpose of the

*nightmares* is to 'wake' the self 'Out

of the Dream'!

 

 

 

 

[NNB]

 

 

 

>

> >>How does awakening impacts normal

> living and responsibilities?

>

> Same way that 'waking up' impacts a...

> dream!

>

>

> >>But, waking up ends the dream. Do

> you then, mean that awakening ends

> 'living' and responsibilities?

>

> Your 'waking up' ends " your " dream!

>

> But, it ends it only for the time that

> you 'stay awake'!

>

> You are free fall back to sleep and

> 'dream' again!

>

>

> >>Do you mean to say that awakening is

> durational?

>

> No... but, your 'dreams' are...

> 'durational'!

>

> You are free to 'identify' with the

> dream and you are free to wake up 'out

> of the dream'!

>

 

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Some dreams are also a way to clean up unconscious

actions, a way to finish up unfinished business that

occured in the day and wasn`t fully resolved.....

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