Werner-appearance is unreal

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In a message dated 2/19/2006 3:48:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,

wwoehr writes:

 

> Larry,

>

> Kishnamurti said about reality: " There are as many realities as there

> are human beings but there is only one truth " .

>

> And I think his statemnet is helpful because it reveals " reality " as

> a very personal and subjective affair.

>

> When people discuss what is real and unreal they never will meet, as

> one can observe so oftn.

>

> What we call appearances are sensations which beforehand got

> processed in the brain and then made conscious. During that

> processing these sensation underwent a subjectivation because the way

> the brain is processing them totally depends on personal

> idiosyncracies. I am colour blind and so a meadow appears not green

> but grey - thats my reality of a meadow.

>

> I think you will agree that it makes no sense to call an appearance

> real or unreal but it makes sense to call it personal or subjective.

>

> Werner

 

L.E: Thank you for your reply. I think in the realm of words, I could say

that there are many truths, but there is only one reality and it would mean the

same thing. That's the problem with sharing through words, so personal

experience is our only real guide in these matters. If there is only one truth,

why do so many claim so many different truths? But that's all a side issue.

Yes, our personal perception of the world external to our skin is created

internally through sense perceptions of light, heat, touch etc. yet if you say

the world is unreal or a dream, that is when the zen master hits you with a

stick. You can call it real or unreal, or personal and subjective, but most

everyone cries out " ouch " when hit by the stick.

We must take this realm seriously becauise it exists parallel to our own

existence.

I wonder how a colorblind or totally blind person knows they are colorblind

or blind? That all must be very weird to be forced to acknowledge that

appearances exist that they/you cannot experience or know. It is useless to

call it a

dream or illusion when the rent is due, or you are hungry. The name does not

change the fact of ordinary experience.

Phil writes about Infinite Creative Potential but that Potential give rise to

the ever new, and the previously unknown. That is why it is Creative. And

no matter what comes out of it, it is never reduced or diminished and that is

why it is called Infinite. Yet there must be some self-awareness in it, some

knowledge of its creations. Why must we say that truth or reality is like a

dream it is having. Potential changes into substance and substance is absorbed

back into potential, but there is more to it. Substance in the form of living

things is different that the substance of suns, planets, galxies and black

holes. Organic life is perhaps the extreme of potential being creative. These

few particles of organic life are the extreme extent of its creation so far,

and here we are, Infinite Creative Potential existing as our bodies and

culture, pleasures and pain, life and death. Not a dream, not an illusion or

appearance, but alive and real.

 

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com