Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 In a message dated 2/19/2006 9:06:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, methusalum writes: > > >To simplify it: There exists only non-dualism, dualism starts when > >there is a need for communication. > > > >Werner L.E: It's deeper than that. Dualism starts when substance arises out of non-substance, when something comes out of nothing, when ojects arise in space. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Thanks for communicating this, Werner Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/19/2006 9:06:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, > methusalum writes: > > > > > >To simplify it: There exists only non-dualism, dualism starts when > > >there is a need for communication. > > > > > >Werner > > L.E: It's deeper than that. Dualism starts when substance arises out of > non-substance, when something comes out of nothing, when ojects arise in space. > > Larry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/19/2006 9:06:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, > methusalum writes: > > > > > >To simplify it: There exists only non-dualism, dualism starts when > > >there is a need for communication. > > > > > >Werner > > L.E: It's deeper than that. Dualism starts when substance arises out of > non-substance, when something comes out of nothing, when ojects arise in space. > > Larry > > > Hi Larry and Werner, " There exists only non-dualism, dualism starts when > > >there is a need for communication. " you can't decide if there is non-dualism....or not? yes, there is only non-dualism......therefore, dualism is an illusion " Werner " , " Larry " , " Marc " .....are the product of this illusion....when appearing here...... " in words " .... if " Werner " , " Larry " and " Marc " are seen as the appearence of the formless and changless....infinite Self.......then we are One in this " understanding " ....and " we " can discuss....on a " non-dual " ground.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 In a message dated 2/20/2006 5:59:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: epston Re: Origin of Dualism In a message dated 2/19/2006 9:06:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, methusalum writes: > > >To simplify it: There exists only non-dualism, dualism starts when > >there is a need for communication. > > > >Werner L.E: It's deeper than that. Dualism starts when substance arises out of non-substance, when something comes out of nothing, when ojects arise in space. Larry Every attempt to identify anything, every thought, every experience, is dualistic. It doesn't matter if it's communicated or not. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:05:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB writes: > > Every attempt to identify anything, every thought, every experience, is > dualistic. It doesn't matter if it's communicated or not. > > Phil L.E: If that's the way it is, that's fine with me. I fully accept it. If there is something else that is non-dualistic that most people don't realize, so what? What difference does it make, and for whom? If all the millions upon millions of humans are deluded, confused, caught in illusion, delusion, suffering, what is producing it, us? Are we just producing our own suffering independently of any deeper life or purpose? If there is a non-dual existence, doesn't it play a part in what humans are being and doing? I find no fault with the way life is. What is your complaint? Larry Epston www.epston.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 In a message dated 2/21/2006 1:55:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: epston Re: Origin of Dualism In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:05:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, ADHHUB writes: > > Every attempt to identify anything, every thought, every experience, is > dualistic. It doesn't matter if it's communicated or not. > > Phil L.E: If that's the way it is, that's fine with me. I fully accept it. If there is something else that is non-dualistic that most people don't realize, so what? What difference does it make, and for whom? If all the millions upon millions of humans are deluded, confused, caught in illusion, delusion, suffering, what is producing it, us? Are we just producing our own suffering independently of any deeper life or purpose? If there is a non-dual existence, doesn't it play a part in what humans are being and doing? I find no fault with the way life is. What is your complaint? Larry Epston No complaint. It was just a comment about what I see as dualistic. You seem to have encountered an issue, though. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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