Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate reality into a conceptual context. As soon as that is done....reality is no more. The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is attempting to understand......exists only within its own imagination. No wonder that it is a little confused. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate reality into a conceptual context. > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is attempting to understand......exists only within > its own imagination. > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > toombaru nice words.....about " the attempt to understand " thanks Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate reality into a conceptual context. As soon as that is done....reality is no more. The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is attempting to understand......exists only within its own imagination. No wonder that it is a little confused. toombaru ................................................. Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is going in circle. Always the same questions, followed by the same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and not try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see the limits, feel opposites and taste duality... Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > > > > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate > reality into a conceptual context. > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is > attempting to understand......exists only within > its own imagination. > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > toombaru > ................................................ > Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is going > in circle. Always the same questions, followed by the > same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. > But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and not > try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see the > limits, feel opposites and taste duality... > Patricia :-) I have been invited to speak at one of the local colleges. One wonders what will happen to eighteen year old minds when advaita is first encountered. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate > > reality into a conceptual context. > > > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is > > attempting to understand......exists only within > > its own imagination. > > > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > ................................................ > > Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is going > > in circle. Always the same questions, followed by the > > same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. > > But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and not > > try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see the > > limits, feel opposites and taste duality... > > Patricia > > > :-) > > I have been invited to speak at one of the local colleges. > > One wonders what will happen to eighteen year old minds when advaita is first > encountered. > > > > toombaru the Self testing your right understanding......in the fiction of this your percieved kids wish you to keep on being....yourSelf during this " happening " Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > > > > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate > reality into a conceptual context. > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is > attempting to understand......exists only within > its own imagination. > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > toombaru > ................................................ > Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is going > in circle. Always the same questions, followed by the > same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. > But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and not > try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see the > limits, feel opposites and taste duality... > Patricia :-) I have been invited to speak at one of the local colleges. One wonders what will happen to eighteen year old minds when advaita is first encountered. toombaru You might be surprised by the level of maturity... It has been one of the best experiences for me, to work w/teens in Europe. All the understanding that we had painfully come to...they had already. I learned more than ever.. Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate > > > reality into a conceptual context. > > > > > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > > > > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is > > > attempting to understand......exists only within > > > its own imagination. > > > > > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > ................................................ > > > Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is going > > > in circle. Always the same questions, followed by the > > > same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. > > > But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and not > > > try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see the > > > limits, feel opposites and taste duality... > > > Patricia > > > > > > :-) > > > > I have been invited to speak at one of the local colleges. > > > > One wonders what will happen to eighteen year old minds when > advaita is first > > encountered. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > the Self testing your right understanding......in the fiction of this > your percieved kids ahhh perhaps..:-) > > wish you to keep on being....yourSelf during this " happening " I will try...but it seems to keep changing.......:-) toombaru > > > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia <gdtige wrote: > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain a écrit : > > > > Nisargadatta , OConnor Patricia > <gdtige@> wrote: > > > > > > --- toombaru2006 <lastrain@> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate > > reality into a conceptual context. > > > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is > > attempting to understand......exists only within > > its own imagination. > > > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > ................................................ > > Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is > going > > in circle. Always the same questions, followed by > the > > same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. > > But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and > not > > try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see > the > > limits, feel opposites and taste duality... > > Patricia > > > :-) > > I have been invited to speak at one of the local > colleges. > > One wonders what will happen to eighteen year old > minds when advaita is first > encountered. > > > > toombaru > > You might be surprised by the level of maturity... > It has been one of the best experiences for me, to > work w/teens in Europe. All the understanding that we > had painfully come to...they had already. > I learned more than ever.. > Patricia > > > > > > ** > You are probably right... My son, now 36, just started the inner journey. What comes through him sometimes takes my breath. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 > > In its attempt to understand....mind has to separate > > reality into a conceptual context. > > > > As soon as that is done....reality is no more. > > > > The 'reality' that mind has created.....and is > > attempting to understand......exists only within > > its own imagination. > > > > No wonder that it is a little confused. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > ................................................ > > Hopefully at some point, one realizes that it is > going > > in circle. Always the same questions, followed by > the > > same answers and so on. Then, one becomes quiet.. > > But you can`t tell young explorers to not seek and > not > > try to understand. They need to do the rounds, see > the > > limits, feel opposites and taste duality... > > Patricia > > > :-) > > I have been invited to speak at one of the local > colleges. > > One wonders what will happen to eighteen year old > minds when advaita is first > encountered. > > > > toombaru > > You might be surprised by the level of maturity... > It has been one of the best experiences for me, to > work w/teens in Europe. All the understanding that we > had painfully come to...they had already. > I learned more than ever.. > Patricia > > > > > > ** > You are probably right... My son, now 36, just started the inner journey. What comes through him sometimes takes my breath. toombaru I liked Mark`s advice, to try to stay your Self. Kids don`t want to hear things they want to SEE. my little one surprises me too.. I am quietly pondering on ...and before I get to the end of it, she blabbers it out, very simply. Talk about one mind. Yet, hers is simpler. What college are you doing that for, if I may ask? Patricia ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > I liked Mark`s advice, to try to stay your Self. > I do too. Kids don`t want to hear things they want to SEE. my little one surprises me too.. I am quietly > > pondering on ...and before I get to the end of it, she > > blabbers it out, very simply. Talk about one mind. > > Yet, hers is simpler. > > What college are you doing that for, if I may ask? > > Patricia > > > > California Lutheran toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > Go beyond the illusion > I have shot him and even burned the body--many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch wrote: Nothing isn't real. Nothing isn't there. Everything isn't real either. Neither nothing nor everything exists. --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch wrote: > > omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > Nothing isn't real. > > Nothing isn't there. > > Everything isn't real either. > > Neither nothing nor everything exists. > > --- End forwarded message --- neither existence nor nonexistence not either, not both, and no neither no negation yes yes yes all is each is all always yes to no and no to yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nothing isn't real. > > > > Nothing isn't there. > > > > Everything isn't real either. > > > > Neither nothing nor everything exists. > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > neither existence nor nonexistence > > not either, not both, and no neither > > no negation > > yes > > yes > > yes > > all is each is all > > always yes to no > > and no to yes from and enlightenment story: enlightenment is never having to say yes or no. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nothing isn't real. > > > > > > Nothing isn't there. > > > > > > Everything isn't real either. > > > > > > Neither nothing nor everything exists. > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > neither existence nor nonexistence > > > > not either, not both, and no neither > > > > no negation > > > > yes > > > > yes > > > > yes > > > > all is each is all > > > > always yes to no > > > > and no to yes > > > from and enlightenment story: > > enlightenment is never having to say yes or no. > > .b b.b. enlightenment is never having been enlightened. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > enlightenment is never having been enlightened. > > - d - Good riddance to it! This concept is responsible for more ridiculous nonsense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nothing isn't real. > > > > > > > > Nothing isn't there. > > > > > > > > Everything isn't real either. > > > > > > > > Neither nothing nor everything exists. > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > neither existence nor nonexistence > > > > > > not either, not both, and no neither > > > > > > no negation > > > > > > yes > > > > > > yes > > > > > > yes > > > > > > all is each is all > > > > > > always yes to no > > > > > > and no to yes > > > > > > from and enlightenment story: > > > > enlightenment is never having to say yes or no. > > > > .b b.b. > > enlightenment is never having been enlightened. > > - d - never having been anything i wouldn't know. that you claim to know tells us something about you however. however hard that is for you to accept it's true. there is no need for acceptance. ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nothing isn't real. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing isn't there. > > > > > > > > > > Everything isn't real either. > > > > > > > > > > Neither nothing nor everything exists. > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > neither existence nor nonexistence > > > > > > > > not either, not both, and no neither > > > > > > > > no negation > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > all is each is all > > > > > > > > always yes to no > > > > > > > > and no to yes > > > > > > > > > from and enlightenment story: > > > > > > enlightenment is never having to say yes or no. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > enlightenment is never having been enlightened. > > > > - d - > > > never having been anything i wouldn't know. > > that you claim to know tells us something about you however. > > however hard that is for you to accept it's true. > > there is no need for acceptance. > > .b b.b. let me tell you about you. it's my favorite topic to post about. that, and sometimes about how you and I don't exist. - d - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > omkaradatta , " omkara " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing isn't real. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing isn't there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything isn't real either. > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither nothing nor everything exists. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > neither existence nor nonexistence > > > > > > > > > > not either, not both, and no neither > > > > > > > > > > no negation > > > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > > > yes > > > > > > > > > > all is each is all > > > > > > > > > > always yes to no > > > > > > > > > > and no to yes > > > > > > > > > > > > from and enlightenment story: > > > > > > > > enlightenment is never having to say yes or no. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > enlightenment is never having been enlightened. > > > > > > - d - > > > > > > never having been anything i wouldn't know. > > > > that you claim to know tells us something about you however. > > > > however hard that is for you to accept it's true. > > > > there is no need for acceptance. > > > > .b b.b. > > let me tell you about you. > > it's my favorite topic to post about. > > that, and sometimes about how you and I don't exist. > > - d - yes of course daniel.. you have a handle on it. you've got 'er all figured out. preach and tell. ...you love it and you know it. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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