Can illusion return [or persist] ? - Ramana.

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Nisargadatta , Pete S <pedsie4 wrote:

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> P: Illusion is part of nature, it's here to

> stay, and realization or not it must be deal with.

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21. D.: How long should one continue

to enquire into the Self?

 

M.: Non-recrudescence of the darkness

of Ignorance is said to be the " limit " of reflection.

Therefore one should continue

the practice until this darkness of

Ignorance does not recur.

 

22-24. D.: Can the veiling once

removed, return again?

 

M.: Yes.

 

So long as doubts arise, this

Ignorance must be inferred to exist.

 

 

D.: How can there be any doubt left

after the Self has been realised?

 

M.: On enquiring into the sheaths and

dismissing them as

unreal, the Self, their witnessing

consciousness is realised to be

unique, finer than ether, even like

void. Now that the sheaths

have been dismissed as unreal and

there is nothing but the voidlike

subtle Self, a fear may arise that one

is left as nothing or void.

 

D.: How can it be?

 

M.: Transcending all, the Self has

nothing in common

with worldly things or activities; It

transcends the void also;

hence the experience is unique and

unearthly. A fear may then

arise " Can this be the Self? It cannot

be - Should this be the

Self, how can I be such a void? "

 

Even after realising the impartite

Self, there is no confidence in one's

own experience; it is regarded as

impossible and a great

doubt arises. The sense of

impossibility gives rise to doubt.

 

But repeated reflection removes

this sense of impossibility. So it is

said by Vyasa in the Brahma

Sutras: Aav<i]a Ask<dupde=at\. On

account of the repeated instruction

(by the scriptures), (it is) necessary

repeatedly (to hear of, reflect

and meditate on the Self ).

 

25. D.: What is the " fruit " of such

reflection?

 

M.: By continued practice, the veiling

is destroyed; with

its destruction, the sense of

impossibility of the Self shining

forth all alone disappears; with its

disappearance all obstacles

are at an end and then direct

experience results as clearly and

surely as an apple in the palm of your

hand. This is the " fruit " .

 

 

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Taken from Advaita Bhoda Deepika

as published by Sri Ramanasramam

Tiruvannamalai 2002.

 

 

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