The end of what is going on (((Frank talk / min

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In a message dated 2/23/2006 2:50:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Nisargadatta writes:

 

" billrishel " <illusyn

The end of " what is going on " (((Re: Frank talk / mind at

rest

 

i think i wrote it as an " understanding " of oneSelf.....an

understanding of the " whole " .....means, of the wholeness of

oneSelf....

 

then....the mind can be at rest.....at " free will " ......

 

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if it is about the " mind " understanding

something, then the mind is still going on... just

in a more lucid kind of way. The impression I get from

such a notion is that the helmsman is still steering,

but now with a clear sense of direction.

 

I suggest that is not very important... such lucidity.

What is really far more interesting, is when the helmsman

has disappeared -- and unaccountably at that.

 

So there is no one steering. And clarity is not an issue.

And why ever would that matter anyhow?

 

Because " what's going on " itself doesn't really matter.

What is done, or not done, happens of its own.

There is no one at the wheel.

 

So it cannot be about the " mind " understanding... yes?

Is that much clear?

 

And so what kind of understanding could it be that

results in the helmsman disappearing?

 

 

I ask the question, but have no answer.

 

If the fruit ripens and finally falls from the

tree... has the fruit *understood*?

 

 

Bill

 

 

 

If it is the fruit's lack of understanding that keeps it clinging to the

tree, then yes, it has understood. Did the fruit cause that understanding to

occur? No. Does it matter whether understanding has occurred? Yes.

 

Phil