Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 9:32:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, lastrain writes: > > Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of > mulberry > seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. > > > toombaru L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 10:42:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, epston writes: > In a message dated 2/25/2006 9:32:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > > >Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of > >mulberry > >seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. > > > > > >toombaru > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > Larry L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, lastrain writes: > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > >> > >>Larry > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > >Larry > > > > > both.....and neither > > > toombaru > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > Larry > > L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > Larry > > both.....and neither > > toombaru > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > Larry > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: What color is the number four? > > toombaru L.E: Who wants to know? Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:57:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, lastrain writes: > How far is up when there in no such thing as up? > > L.E: Well then, go up into the basement and get some tomato soup, and go down into the attic and look out the window. Good luck. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of mulberry seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 9:32:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > > > Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of > > mulberry > > seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. > > > > > > toombaru > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > Larry > There in no dreamer.......only the dream.........that isn't. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 10:42:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, > epston writes: > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 9:32:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > lastrain writes: > > > > > > > >Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of > > >mulberry > > >seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. > > > > > > > > >toombaru > > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > > > Larry > > L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > Larry > > both.....and neither toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > >> > > >>Larry > > > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > Larry Do you like it better here then in the summer? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > >> > > >>Larry > > > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > Larry > Why is the man in the moon always smiling? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > >> > > >>Larry > > > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > Larry Who am I? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > >> > > >>Larry > > > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > Larry > What color is the number four? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > >>L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > >>>> > >>>>Larry > >>> > >>>L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > >>> > >>>Larry > >>> > >>> > >>both.....and neither > >> > >> > >>toombaru > >> > >> > >> > >L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > > >Larry > > > Do you like it better here then in the summer? > > > toombaru > > > L.E: Why do you want to know? > > Larry > > Just answer the question mame......( from Joe Friday) Do you like it here better then in the summer? Yes or now. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > >In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >lastrain@ writes: > > > >>L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > >>>> > >>>>Larry > >>> > >>>L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > >>> > >>>Larry > >>> > >>> > >>both.....and neither > >> > >> > >>toombaru > >> > >> > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > > >Larry > > > Why is the man in the moon always smiling? > > toombaru > > L.E: To ask that question, you must be dreaming. > > Larry > All questions emerge from with the dream. All questions are about conceptual things....and their imagined relationship to an illusory self. All questions are about concepts....that have no separate existence. Any questions? toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > > > Larry > > > > L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > Larry > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > toombaru > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > > Larry > > > > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > lastrain@ writes: > > > What color is the number four? > > > > toombaru > > > L.E: Who wants to know? > > Larry > > Indeed. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > > >>>L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > Larry > > both.....and neither > > toombaru > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > > Larry > > > > Why is the man in the moon always smiling? > > > > toombaru > > > > L.E: To ask that question, you must be dreaming. > > > > Larry > > > > > > All questions emerge from with the dream. > > toombaru > > L.E: Then all answers must also emerge from within the dream. There are no answers to meaningless questions. All questions are meanignless. How far is up when there in no such thing as up? What is 200 miles south of earth...when the earth never stands still? Who are you .....when there isn't one? The answer is within the question. And the question are about something that never was. Any questions? So you must be > dreaming because the dreamer doesn't speak or else he isn't dreaming. You assume that there exists....somewhere a dreamer......from that it appears logical that there is a dreamer.....Perhaps you can put one of these 'dreamer' critters here on this table...so we can get a really good look at it.....you know disect it.......really see what's in the inside. (It is out of these same ingredients that Gods and Devils are concocted.) > And where does it emerge? Where do the people in your night time dreams come from......where do the go when you wake up? > What does it emerge into? Is there an outside to > the dream? No....there is nothing beyond the dream. > > > > > All questions are about conceptual things....and their imagined relationship > > to an illusory self. All questions are about concepts....that have no > > separate existence. > > > > Any questions? > > > > toombaru > > > > L.E: If you are both the dreamer and the dream, who is there left to speak? This is hard to swallow....... There is no one speaking. > > > > And then, all answers are about conceptual things and their imagined > > relationship to an illusory self. All answers are about concepts....that have no > > separate existence. > In ping pong, the ball has no separate existence yet the ball goes back > and forth, back and forth. Do you like ping pong? Yes. > > Are questions and answers about concepts? Yes Then what are concepts about? 'Things' and concepts are the same. Are > there concepts about concepts? Yes. If questions and answers are both within the > dream, what value have they? Nothing is 'of value' You forgot..........there is no entity to whom they could be of value to. (Oh i forgot.......You shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition) Do you know why that is? > Are we both having the same dream or am I having mine, and you are having > yours? There is one dream. Your question assumes the reality of separate dreamers......Go deeper. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:40:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > > > > >>Larry > > >> > > >> > > >>In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > >>lastrain@ writes: > > > > > > > > >What color is the number four? > > >> > > >>toombaru > > > > > > > > >L.E: Who wants to know? > > > > > >Larry > > > > >Indeed. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > L.E: A short answer is still an answer. Who wrote, " indeed.? " > If it's all a dream why not anwer my questions BEFORE I offer them. > Certainly in a dream the usual rules do not apply. > > Larry > > There....right there..........You imagine a " me " ....and then a question emerges that seems to be coming from that imagination. Thus it is all stretched out.....and more questions emerge........ It can be seen that the 'me' is reinforced and substantiated through the questions that appear to be coming through it. THERE IS NO 'ME'! Go back the way you came. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain G-Rations Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of mulberry seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. toombaru I think my big brother took my mulberry seeds. I swear I never saw em. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:57:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > How far is up when there in no such thing as up? > > > > > > L.E: Well then, go up into the basement and get some tomato soup, and go down > into the attic and look out the window. Good luck. > > Larry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 3:24:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: G-Rations Nisargadatta , epston wrote: > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lastrain writes: > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > >> > > >>Larry > > > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > Larry > Why is the man in the moon always smiling? toombaru Cause humans almost never come by to visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 In a message dated 2/25/2006 3:24:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: G-Rations You forgot..........there is no entity to whom they could be of value to. (Oh i forgot.......You shouldn't end a sentence with a preposition) Do you know why that is? Ending a sentence with a preposition is something, up, with which, I will not put! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > G-Rations > > > > > > Every baby human that enters the earth-dream is issued a small packet of > mulberry > seeds..........a small pocket mirror......and a round trip ticket home. > > > toombaru > > > > I think my big brother took my mulberry seeds. I swear I never saw em. > > Phil > Don't worry. There are a lot of humans that are content to run around another human's mulberry bush. toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 3:24:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " toombaru2006 " <lastrain > Re: G-Rations > > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote: > > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 12:10:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > lastrain@ writes: > > > > > L.E: It's only a dream if you are the dreamer. Are you the dreamer? > > > >> > > > >>Larry > > > > > > > >L.E: In other words, are you in the dream or having the dream? > > > > > > > >Larry > > > > > > > > > > > both.....and neither > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.E: If that's true, how can you possibly be writing this? > > > > Larry > > > > > > > Why is the man in the moon always smiling? > > > toombaru > > > > > Cause humans almost never come by to visit? > > :-) toombaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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