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In a message dated 2/25/2006 2:45:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lastrain writes:

 

> Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

> >

> >In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:57:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> >lastrain writes:

> >

> How far is up when there in no such thing as up?

>

> L.E: Well then, go up into the basement and get some tomato soup, and go

> down

> into the attic and look out the window. Good luck.

>

> Larry

>

>

> If one is lost.............300 million mile from earth........where is this

> 'thing' called up?

>

>

> toombaru

>

> L.E: On earth, up is perpendicular to the surface, or in the opposite

direction from the center point of the sphere. In space, assuming a spaceship,

up is

toward the ceiling and down is where the deck is.

If you are a disembodied spirit, or a point of free-floating consciousness up

and down are irrelevant. That's not too hard. Another question?

 

What do the you who is not, or the dreamer who is and is not, or you in the

dream that is dreaming of me who is just a part of yourself have to say about

it?

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

>

> In a message dated 2/25/2006 2:45:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> lastrain writes:

>

> > Nisargadatta , epston@ wrote:

> > >

> > >In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:57:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> > >lastrain@ writes:

> > >

> > How far is up when there in no such thing as up?

> >

> > L.E: Well then, go up into the basement and get some tomato soup, and go

> > down

> > into the attic and look out the window. Good luck.

> >

> > Larry

> >

> >

> > If one is lost.............300 million mile from earth........where is this

> > 'thing' called up?

> >

> >

> > toombaru

> >

> > L.E: On earth, up is perpendicular to the surface, or in the opposite

> direction from the center point of the sphere. In space, assuming a

spaceship, up is

> toward the ceiling and down is where the deck is.

> If you are a disembodied spirit, or a point of free-floating consciousness up

> and down are irrelevant. That's not too hard. Another question?

 

 

So...there is such a thing as 'up' and yet there isn't?

 

>

> What do the you who is not, or the dreamer who is and is not, or you in the

> dream that is dreaming of me who is just a part of yourself have to say about

> it?

>

> Larry Epston

 

 

 

 

You assume that there exists a separate 'meness' here......that exists somewhere

outside

of the 'youness' named Larry....that can somehow swap spit.

 

Find out if that is the case.

 

 

toombaru

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In a message dated 2/25/2006 9:09:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lastrain writes:

 

> If one is lost.............300 million mile from earth........where is this

>

> >>'thing' called up?

> >>

> >>

> >>toombaru

> >>

> >>L.E: On earth, up is perpendicular to the surface, or in the opposite

> >direction from the center point of the sphere. In space, assuming a

> spaceship, up is

> >toward the ceiling and down is where the deck is.

> >If you are a disembodied spirit, or a point of free-floating consciousness

> up

> >and down are irrelevant. That's not too hard. Another question?

>

>

> Toombaru: So...there is such a thing as 'up' and yet there isn't?

>

 

L.E: I didn't say that. In the ordinary world up and down are obvious. In a

fantasy world that doesn't exist for us, where there are ghosts and

disembodied spirits, up and down are irrelevant, not that there isn't an up and

down.

You are too quick to try to fulfill you own premise. I can agree that up

without an environment or context up doesn't exist. Perhaps you can get some

satisfaction out of that. You can also ask, does apple or cat or donkey exist

and

the same answer applies. In certain environments and situations the words have

meaning, in others they don't. No big deal.

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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