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In a message dated 2/25/2006 8:56:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lastrain writes:

 

> In truth 'you' are the very movement that is seeking to see itself..

(why does " you " have parenthesis around it?)(is that the 'you' that doesn't

exist and isn't real looking for something?)

>

>

 

L.E: Does this really make any sense? Seeking is not finding. How long

does this lack of achievement go on? Is this the same for all humans? Who/what

succeeds in seeing itself? Is it like trying to get to a mirror, but not

finding one?

 

You've written a lot of things. Too many to comment on. I appreciate your

concern and effort. If any of it makes sense there's a lot to think about. If

none of it makes sense, there's a lot to think about.

 

Frankly, I think it is mostly a mish mash of old ideas that are mostly

confusing.

Basically I accept the way it is as the way it is. A few may see more than

others, but most don't and never will. The way it is is not an accident, a

mistake, a confusion, or a dream. It is life itself creating everything out of

nothing or non-substance. You are it and it is you, us, everything, just as it

is. We can change what we can change and that is not very much. Just try to

change your sex if you want a challenge.

Or stop biting your nails, or overeating. Try to be smarter or have a better

memory, or run faster, and experience your possibilities. Try changing your

social position, class or race. Since it's just a dream in your sense, try

waking up and tell me who or what you are when awake, or in the dream, just

change something significant.

 

 

Larry Epston

www.epston.com

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , epston wrote:

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> In a message dated 2/25/2006 8:56:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> lastrain writes:

>

> > In truth 'you' are the very movement that is seeking to see itself..

> (why does " you " have parenthesis around it?)

 

 

The parenthesis indicate that the you is an assumption...an amalgam of

innuendo,,,, and

not a reality.

 

 

 

 

 

(is that the 'you' that doesn't

> exist and isn't real looking for something?)

 

 

 

 

 

'You " are seeking to make sense out of non-sense.

 

You are the seeking itself.

 

 

 

 

> >

> >

>

> L.E: Does this really make any sense? Seeking is not finding. How long

> does this lack of achievement go on? Is this the same for all humans?

Who/what

> succeeds in seeing itself? Is it like trying to get to a mirror, but not

> finding one?

>

> You've written a lot of things. Too many to comment on. I appreciate your

> concern and effort.

 

 

It is not 'mine'.

 

 

If any of it makes sense there's a lot to think about. If

> none of it makes sense, there's a lot to think about.

 

 

 

Thinking about thinking is what got 'you' in this conundrum.

 

The attempt to think about thought presents an ever receding

horizon.....thinking about

thinking about thinking...............

 

It is in this overlap that the phantom emerges......yawns......stretches its

limbs.....opens its

I-s.......

 

 

The ideation of self steps center stage and and surveys its make-believe

kingdom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> Frankly, I think it is mostly a mish mash of old ideas that are mostly

> confusing.

 

 

 

 

 

The only confusion that exists is conceptual.

 

The mind attempts to remove an imaginary goose egg from an imaginary bottle.

 

Its goals are unattainable....for one very good reason.

 

 

 

 

 

> Basically I accept the way it is as the way it is.

 

 

There is no 'I' to accept or not accept.

 

 

 

 

A few may see more than

> others, but most don't and never will. The way it is is not an accident, a

> mistake, a confusion, or a dream. It is life itself creating everything out

of

> nothing or non-substance. You are it and it is you, us, everything, just as

it

> is. We can change what we can change and that is not very much. Just try to

> change your sex if you want a challenge.

> Or stop biting your nails, or overeating. Try to be smarter or have a better

> memory, or run faster, and experience your possibilities. Try changing your

> social position, class or race. Since it's just a dream in your sense, try

> waking up and tell me who or what you are when awake, or in the dream, just

> change something significant.

>

>

> Larry Epston

> www.epston.com

>

 

 

Well.....there is that tricky little monkey again.

 

Everything downstream from him.....everything is tainted.

 

 

Take a look at him.

 

Find out his true nature.

 

He is the kingpin.

 

He is the keystone.

 

He falls.....and the imaginary kingdom......crumbles.

 

 

 

.........and in its place .................nothing........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and everything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

toombaru

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