Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Nisargadatta , ADHHUB wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/25/2006 1:52:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Nisargadatta writes: > > " billrishel " <illusyn > The end of " what is going on " (((Re: Frank talk / min > > Nisargadatta , ADHHUB@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/23/2006 2:50:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > Nisargadatta writes: > > > > " billrishel " <illusyn@> > > The end of " what is going on " (((Re: Frank talk / > mind at > > rest > > > > i think i wrote it as an " understanding " of oneSelf.....an > > understanding of the " whole " .....means, of the wholeness of > > oneSelf.... > > > > then....the mind can be at rest.....at " free will " ...... > > > > >>>> > > if it is about the " mind " understanding > > something, then the mind is still going on... just > > in a more lucid kind of way. The impression I get from > > such a notion is that the helmsman is still steering, > > but now with a clear sense of direction. > > > > I suggest that is not very important... such lucidity. > > What is really far more interesting, is when the helmsman > > has disappeared -- and unaccountably at that. > > > > So there is no one steering. And clarity is not an issue. > > And why ever would that matter anyhow? > > > > Because " what's going on " itself doesn't really matter. > > What is done, or not done, happens of its own. > > There is no one at the wheel. > > > > So it cannot be about the " mind " understanding... yes? > > Is that much clear? > > > > And so what kind of understanding could it be that > > results in the helmsman disappearing? > > > > > > I ask the question, but have no answer. > > > > If the fruit ripens and finally falls from the > > tree... has the fruit *understood*? > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > If it is the fruit's lack of understanding that keeps it clinging to the > tree, then yes, it has understood. Did the fruit cause that > understanding to > occur? No. Does it matter whether understanding has occurred? Yes. > > Phil > ~~~~~~~~~ > > To whom does it matter whether understanding has occurred? > Certainly not to the fruit. > It has fallen from the tree and the ordeal is over. > It has no need to care anymore. > > Bill > > > > It matters to all the other little fruits that are still 'hanging around' > and Ooooh'ing and Ahhhh'ing over the one that finally fell. Heheee. > > Phil > Good one Phil! ) Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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